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tbh if Hahn went on an absolute bender and somehow signed James Fegan to be manager, at this point, I wouldn't even be mad.

God damnit, I need Vaughn to switch to 99 and just go on a goddamn tear.

He is a future Hall of Fame person, after all.

I guarantee the Rockies would trade their 2 year playoff streak for winning in 2007, the Mariners would trade their 2 year streak for anything - don't forget they squandered Griffey, A-Ron, Ichiro, Randy, etc. in a very, very short span.

Flip half of those and the Sox are 20-9 - the Sox are the best team in baseball. Without Eloy, Abreu and Grandal slumping, and the bullpen not hitting on all cylinders. The ceiling on this team is artificially put in place by Mr. Hall of Fame Person, brother.

It was actually J.D. Martinez, according to FanGraphs. He's really bad at defense.

From 1950 to 1967, the Yankees were the only AL team to make the playoffs back-to-back. The Indians broke through in '54, Sox in '59, Twins in '65, Orioles in '66, Red Sox in '67. Of those, only the Orioles won.

Then arguing about no back-to-back playoffs is disingenuous, because if the same playoff format existed for the majority of the Sox tenure, the Sox would have been in the playoffs: Twice in the 30s Twice in the 40s Eleven years straight from 1951 to 1961 Five years straight from 1963 to 1967 I can crunch the 70s and 80s later, but it's a pointless endeavor to argue across time when the fundamentals of the game have changed.

Eh, I'd put the Mariners, D-Backs, Rockies all comfortably worse than the White Sox.

I was considered that, but graded on a slight curve for possible nagging injury. Which I guess we knew going in. At worst, he's been serviceable.

Give me a list of teams in the majors other than the Dodgers and Padres that would survive losing two possible All-Star outfielders (Eloy, Robert), a quality RF (Eaton - I did not expect him to be quality, but credit where it's due at this point in the season) and the primary quality backup (Engel) to injury. That is with... The top position prospect emerging as an average LF (per quantitative metrics), but the manager refuses to trust him in the OF, instead trusting another non-OF (Lamb). No minor league season since 2019. We had the alternate site, but Rutherford, Adolfo, Gonzalez, Sheets, and the rest aren't as talented as Vaughn. Sheets has gotten off to a hot start (in an incredibly short sample size of two games), but it's hard to have ready-to-go depth in the minors in May without minor league season since 2019. Leury would have been a serviceable 5th OF. Hamilton a serviceable 6th OF. In short, stop making excuses for a man that has shown repeatedly over the past decade that he is lazy and thinks he is better than everyone else in the game.

The minors are used to develop pitchers and we have not had them since 2019. Now we have the minors again, where pitchers can develop.

Well, considering the minor league season just started two nights ago, Stiever looked good. If the pen comes around, the Sox may be able weather the storm until Eloy and Robert return. But man, this rotation hitting so far has been saving this season, with the lineup getting battered and the pen finding its footing.

To add onto this: Not knowing the rule wasn't the worst part of last night. It was the double-switch - which he was told was a bad idea in his dugout - and the attempted steal which we, a collective message board hive mind, could have all told you was a stupid fucking idea right in the moment for a litany of reasons.

I've seen enough, bring him up to Chicago. Saw Forbes' age the other day and thought the same thing about his age. He's basically always been younger the the league average at every level, until now.

Non-practicing attorney Tony La Russa demonstrated all the time in Arizona that he doesn't do research or know rules. He tried to make trades that weren't legal per MLB rules and then traded for the wrong Luis Basabe, because he's too fucking lazy to do his goddamn research. The D-backs paid the price for his laziness for years. Now the Sox are going to pay the price when they could have had their pick of any single manager on the market, especially one who would bother to learn the rules of the game.

Cincinnati's manager did.

Remember when Tony kept trying to make illegal trades in the Diamondbacks front office and other GMs had to explain the rules to him?

Can James Fegan be the manager?

Today might be his worse loss because this is where he should have been at his best - managing a fucking NL game - but he so completely botched it.

Needed to pinch run for him, essentially.

Maybe Tony was worried about Jake Lamb being the next batter up? Who am I kidding, he thinks Lamb is a fucking god.

Over reactionary take that I feel completely justified in saying because it's endemic of a larger problem: Whoever made the call to steal there (TLR or Leury) should be fired or cut from the team.