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QUOTE (bmags @ Aug 6, 2009 -> 11:45 AM) caulfield has so many friends on this board! Answering the questions no one asked for over two years!

QUOTE (Jenks Heat @ Aug 6, 2009 -> 10:11 AM) Torres looked servicable against Tampa and the first start jitters should be gone. Hudson will have all of this stuff to work through. I'd also like to see if Torres does ok for him to stay up until Peavy is ready and then stay with the team through September. The starters could use that extra day I would think which they will not be getting if they skip the number 5 spot. What exactly does Hudson have to work on in the minors, though? That's the issue for me. And if this idea of overcoming first start jitters were true, well, lets throw up Hudson and get his out of the way too so he can dominate. People are just transfixed with prospects and this idea of them progressing bit by bit, year by year. Sure, if a player needs to work on some aspect of their game against increasing competition this is the set standard, but if they're already put together (as Beckham was) then what use is there in the minors? Then, even when they're ready, it seems to be a collective feeling among fans that every other option should be explored before doing what's right. Yes, not everyone is Beckham; but Hudson doesn't appear to be challenged -- so why delay him? Our organization obviously doesn't believe much more time is needed if they've promoted him so far, so quickly. I don't see what Charlotte can possibly do for his development. What's the worst that can happen with Hudson, that he's terrible? Ok, then demote him after. If he's any type of man he wont fall apart in the minors upon returning. He'll learn from his mistakes. I'd honestly rather try Hudson and risk whatever he brings than stick with Torres. This goal here should be putting the best option on the mound, and we all know what that is.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Aug 6, 2009 -> 09:21 AM) ESPN 1000 is reporting that Don Cooper hinted at Peavy starting a rehab assignment early next week and needing "about 3 starts" before he's ready. Bring up Hudson. I'd rather take my chance with him than Torres, and Carrasco needs to be around the bullpen in case Hudson falls flat.

Outstanding. Let's celebrate the chat's return with a mid afternoon box social.

QUOTE (kev211 @ Aug 5, 2009 -> 11:17 PM) I believe Buffet negotiated with the place and said there will be tailgating or I wont play there. Actually I'm positive thats what happened. You're correct, but even with the concessions Buffet's people didn't like Tinley Park's facilities or its location. That's the main reason he decided to move his act to Bridgeview. And for the record, Buffet's a great guy, but the people working for him are some of the biggest assholes you'd ever encounter. I work for Toyota Park, where two of his concerts were held last season (as will two this year), and his security detail actually forced several of our companies employees home because of trivial "mistakes." Apparently, they -- and every other musician -- own the park and have the power to enforce such actions. One of his main security guards told our employees stationed outside Buffet's dressing room that they weren't allowed to make eye contact with must keep their eyes fixated in the floor when Jimmy leaves to perform. When Buffet shook one person's hand he was sent home for making eye contact. It's ridiculous how they run it.

Uh, didn't Williams used to throw 95 mph? How the hell did he lose 7 mph on his fastball in a few appearances?

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And it's not even as if he criticized the deal because Peavy may be ineffective for us. That's why he threw in the Carlos Lee comparison. Peavy may be a sub 3.50 ERA pitcher in the American League, lead us to a World Series, but I'm sure his value wouldn't be worthy of the 16/17 million he's due in '10 and '11. The author believes the production of Carter/Russell/Poreda/Richard, for the respective salaries, will exceed that of Jake Peavy. I suppose it's possible, considering you have four players involved on their end, but how the hell can anyone assemble a championship caliber ballclub unless these types of risks are taken? Anyways, when you add in Beckham, Getz, Ramirez, and possibly Flowers and Hudson, there's certaintly enough to offset Peavy's salary.

The Smiley Face Murders. Look it up.

QUOTE (Tony82087 @ Aug 2, 2009 -> 12:06 PM) If you are using Poreda as an example of Guillen not being able to manage a starter out of the bullpen, you are making a mistake. I would be shocked to find out Poreda was on this teams "3 Year big board" going forward. He wasn't in the franchises plans, and I honestly think the Sox didn't want to expose him that badly. It has to do more with the dependability of our starters under Guillen's reign more than his willingness to avoid using them. If practically every night a starter is going 6-7 innings, where does Hudson fit in? We should just keep it simple -- either start up in the majors or the minors. No bulls*** of pitching sporadically.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jul 31, 2009 -> 04:11 PM) I think Hudson is up late next year or the year after that. With such starting pitching depth, I guess you can look at it two ways -- either we can allow him to compete for the position in ST, possibly win it, and endure the growing pains of starting (similar to Danks); or figure, with a solid rotation already intact, there's no need to rush him. I feel if there's really nothing for him to work on (ie, developing second pitches), there's no need to keep him in the minors. However, what I imagine they'll do is resign Contreras and take whatever they can from him. If he's falling apart on the mound or becomes injured, then you can promote Hudson. It's easier entering the season with an option available than holding 5th starter tryouts through spring training and beyond. And not addressing you Rock, but I hope no one even f***ing hints at putting Hudson in the bullpen. I'm sick of this argument presenting itself-- you can't have a starting pitcher under Guillen pitch out of the bullpen in the long relief role because he'll never find consistent work. It was a different time with Garland and Buehrle under Manuel. If Hudson's up here, he should be starting. Otherwise, keep him in the minors.

QUOTE (robinventura23 @ Jul 31, 2009 -> 03:50 PM) Just announced - Carrasco starting tonight. Those outfield fans better be prepared for some incoming bombs. It'll just be hilarious if, by the time Peavy is ready to pitch, we're 6+ out of first place and would have just been better with Richard; and then after the season worry about Peavy.

QUOTE (CanOfCorn @ Jul 31, 2009 -> 03:44 PM) I think I heard something about the end of August. Hahahha. That's smart, trade for Peavy for a potential late season push when he wouldn't even be around for 5-6 starts. I hope this is a case of Peavy being a little b**** and taking his time on the DL rather than a legitimate injury.

Please tell me there isn't any part of this deal that includes automatically picking up 2013.....

Williams is going to be raped in the media if he doesn't do anything. I'm not saying they'll be right, but considering Detroit and Minnesota made roster additions and we sat twiddling our thumbs, we'll all have to endure a few days of White Sox bashing by the locals.

LOL at the number of contributing 2004 Red Sox players on it. That World Series team is going to take a HUGE hit. It's really funny to me watching ESPN, and all their Sportscenter anchors practically begging MLBPA to release the names. Of course when it involves embarrassment to them, or their beloved Red Sox, they want it all out in the open as quickly as possible. I was watching ESPN News yesterday and one of the male anchors was practically losing it talking about how they keep releasing name after name, little by little. Again, I say let it trickle out slowly.

QUOTE (Heads22 @ Jul 30, 2009 -> 07:14 PM) http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/news/wrap....me&c_id=cws Haha at Comcast Sports Net finding probably one of a handful of games Stone broadcasted prior to this year as their "White Sox Classic." I'm sure they'd be better off, I don't know, putting Buehrle's first no-hitter, or any other game where we came back from more than 1 run late against a bad bullpen.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jul 30, 2009 -> 06:06 PM) That chat is weird. I just logged in and you can still see everything Buehrle gt Wood, Flash, and SoxAce said 2 hours ago. Very convenient for the narcs, I'd say.

QUOTE (dpd9189 @ Jul 30, 2009 -> 02:24 PM) Just release the whole list so we can move on. Personally, I enjoy the long, agonizing wait. It'd be even funnier if they released one name, once a week, to make sure they grab the headlines. You group them all together, as others have pointed out, it takes away from the circus. Some will escape criticism. If it were me, I'd purposely release the name of a player who had a good week. Or even better, wait until a team is in the World Series, THEN release a few names. Anything to make people embarrassed. Hell, it's not even that I care about steroids or HGH -- I just love watching people complain in baseball.

QUOTE (Stan Bahnsen @ Jul 30, 2009 -> 01:17 PM) Another thing I'd really like to know is how and why these names are being leaked, who's doing the leaking, and why they're being leaked one by one. My conjecture is that the leaker or leakers are being paid - HANDSOMELY - and that there's more money in it for them by doing it this way. Some dirty dealing is going on, that's for certain. So what if they are? It doesn't take away from the fact that Ortiz tested positive for steroids. It almost seems like you're pulling the line so often connected with players when they're names are released, and that's attacking the messenger or their motivations for releasing information rather than the person them self.

QUOTE (lostfan @ Jul 29, 2009 -> 09:54 AM) I just made this post in another thread, but DeWayne Wise being a s***ty defender is a myth created by Soxtalk. He really isn't that bad. And everybody should know I'm no Wise supporter. I have no issues with Wise on defense. My main point was that Guillen never seemed to care about defense before, so I don't see why it should be an issue now with Kotsay; whom atleast can provide enough offense to be labeled mediocre.

QUOTE (lostfan @ Jul 29, 2009 -> 07:26 AM) It started long before then. Yeah, I guess the catch just made it more difficult to do what's right. Although Kotsay seems to be a move in the right direction.

QUOTE (Big Daddy Kool @ Jul 29, 2009 -> 09:13 AM) Kotsay isn't the OF he was 5 years ago. So, then Kotsay's role is as backup to Konerko.......and a backup to Wise?! It's indefensible to keep Wise around. If we're willing to put Podsednik in CF this season, Griffey in CF last season, Mackowiak several years before, it should be obvious OF defense isn't a high priority with Guillen. Kotsay should easily eclipse Wise's offense. Wise is f***ing useless. And please, no "he's a lefthanded bat available to pinch hit and for matchups against RHP." Who cares at this point?