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That is a fact but be careful because you might be accused of hating that player. LOL. You are right about how Vaughn and other outfielders cover up for their lack of speed by making sure they are positioned correctly for each hitter. No problem there - that is always a good idea. However, Vaughn went a step further than that by employing what almost became a signature AV dive/belly flop (like the Fosbury flop became in gymnastics). After Vaughn continued to lay himself out time after time to catch balls it became obvious that he had to dive because he lacked the speed to get to balls that would have been routine plays for average Major league outfielders. (Google "Andrew Vaughn dives for a ball" or something like that to see a bunch of them.) Here is one diving belly flop catch made by Vaughn where he is positioned pretty well but breaks a few steps left toward center and then dives to catch the ball to his right side before he crashes down. If you look back on some of his dives, you see the same thing over and again. He has to dive to compensate for lack of speed (and he has the hang time of a lead balloon.) Vaughn is a decent first base prospect but he is blocked for several years at that position by Jose Abreu. That leads me to suggest some hypothetical trades (or maybe diabolical trade suggestions to some Vaughn fans) that could help Vaughn develop, help the Sox in 2022 and likewise benefit the team that gets AV: Vaughn to the Dodgers for Lux or Bellinger, or Vaughn to the Cubs for Wilson Contreras and Ed Henry (or one of their other top prospects). Vaughn and Kimbrel to ____ for _____. (you fill in the blanks) If /when Vaughn gone, that might unblock a path for Burgur to finally make the team or for Sheets to become a full time player at DH/1B.

This response, from 1 of 24 moderators on this site, is dripping with sarcasm and arrogance.

I would like to be to be a moderator. What are the requirements and where do i make the request?

Maybe sacrifice defense for the HR power that Eloy, Robert and Schwarber would bring. They could combine for 100 HR which would win a lot of games in a 162 game season. If you get a late lead, you throw in a defensive outfielder or two. If you are behind late,. they could turn things around with one swing. SS Hitmen 2.022

Schwarber would certainly add power and some swagger. Signing him would be a dagger into the Cub fan base. The more I think of it, the more I like the idea.

That was what Steve Stone said on air almost every time Vaughn came to the plate last season. That eventually got old for me and when it did, I expressed that here. Some disagreed which is fine. IMO, former players/Announcers are sometimes right and other times their opinions are no more valuable than your own. Recall Hawk Harrelson promoting Brent Morel, Todd Frazier, Youklis, and others beyond anything that they eventually ended up contributing for our Sox. Outfield? I think Vaughn is too slow to be a full-time outfielder on any MLB team. 1B ? Abreu has than sewn that up for another few years. DH? IMO, Sheets has decent potential value as a DH. That opinion is based mainly on what I saw ("eye test") last season after watching most of the games at the park or on TV. . Sheets adjusted to outside pitches very well. Another thing was how Sheets performed in clutch at bats. That is an intangible that few players, like Eloy and TA seem to have and something I think Sheets has. As far as Vaughn, he likely will have another year on the WSox to prove doubters like me wrong (which would be fine with me). As of now though, I just do not think he has much trade value as an outfielder or as a 1B/DH. Vaughn's .235 BA and 15 HR in 417 ABs will not jump off the stat sheet for GM's looking to add power to their line-up. If the Dodgers or another West coast team want Vaughn (or if he prefers playing for a team closer to his home) I would try to make a deal.

Owners are never going to agree to any form of revenue sharing with players.

Perhaps Colas and the White Sox have not finalized all terms of their agreement and then decided where he will begin his professional career within the organization. An official WSox press release to at least update fans on the status of this would be appreciated.

Pretty much agree with you but I suppose if Vaughn could learn 3B and hit 35 HR, then having him as a regular 3B and moving Moncada back to 2B could make some sense, even if not the ideal spot for Moncada. Moncada has been like a vacuum cleaner at 3B (That is what they used to call Brooks Robinson of the O's ) which makes you not want to see him moved. And speaking of message board fodder, consider that several posters here did not think it was a good idea to move Moncada to third, stating that second base was his "natural position." Of course with Madrigal slated to eventually become the regular second basemen, the move was made.

Hypothetically, if the Sox had to choose among available in-house options, Moncada at 2nd would make some sense given that Vaughn and Burger are tanks that can't play 2b but might be adequate at 3B where their limited range and heavy feet would not disqualify them

"As it stands" Moncada is the best internal option for second base.

Given the need to fill 2B and RF, I would hope the Sox explore any and all trade options. Obviously if you want to acquire decent talent in a trade, you have to give some up - maybe one or more of Kimbrel, Keuchel, Sheets, Vaughn or Burgur. Really no player should be untouchable for the right trade haul in return. You need to know what that return might be before saying you would not trade a player.

Will Colas play in the US this year or next ?

Agree 100%.

This is where talent evaluation based on experience is relevant. Possibly Burgur or Vaughn could play 3B, but I don't think Moncada will move back to second. Maybe the Sox sign a FA like Trevor Story or trade for Lux or somebody for 2B. That Madrigal trade looks worse every day. A hole that Hahn created for nothing.

I likewise try to to gain insights from the analysis of sabermetrics . Those numbers are a great way to evaluate player performance and trends. I admit though that I am still mostly old school when it comes to talent evaluation. That is more subjective, but after many years of watching major league baseball, you gain your own insights which can add to evaluating a player based on raw numbers. So, old school plus new school.

The MLB lockout has very little to do with the typical issues involving labor unions or anti-trust laws. MLB is a monopoly but at the same time players have a monopoly on the talent that mlb needs to survive. This isn't like low skilled hourly employees trying to strike against Amazon. Here, both sides have a ton of leverage and one cannot exist and prosper without the other. If the two sides do not work this out before Spring Training, they will only be hurting themselves as well as fans of all ages who are waiting for this to be over with. Maybe more pressure from the media and from baseball fans around the country needs to be brought to bear on owners as well as the players union to get this thing done. Maybe a boycott of all advanced ticket sales until they resolve this.

Other than taxation, what would prevent Colas from playing major league baseball in the US this year? Is the issue one involving tax law or immigration law? For example, Is there a way for Colas to have income tax withheld (i.e., a central witholding agreement) which might satisfy tax liability?

My post was directly responsive to the post I quoted which involved age statistics. The point is that the median age in the country has gotten older, so no surprise that the media age of baseball fans mirrors that. Please just stop commenting on my posts as your commentaries have become increasingly snarky and foolhardy. You act like you own this site and that is bulshit.

Baseball was and still is America's favorite national pastime for boomers. However, watching a baseball game just does not provide the same level of stimulation that gaming does for younger fans. I think most fans over 55 tend to rely on their own experience and the eye test in evaluating teams and players and generally place less emphasis on sabermetrics.

You were in favor of the trade adding that it would virtually ensure a run at the WS. No mistaking what you said. An admission from said poster that he was dead wrong would be preferable to words from an apologist 5 months after the trade, 3 months after the season has ended. This is a poster who goes to the mat with others like poppysox just to prove them wrong. It's gotten old.

A few posters here including ss2K loved the trade and thought Kimbrel would almost guarantee a WS run. Nobody is defending the trade now and it might look even worse if Hahn does not pull a rabbit out of his hat and obtain a major league ready player that can help the Sox in exchange for Kimbrel.

Uncle Tom? Wow.

Vaughn and Collins to the Cubs for Madrigal, Contreras , and Happ and then sit back and watch heads explode. LOL. Wear masks and stay safe as Omicron is spiking. Merry Christmas and tidings of joy to the White Sox organization and to all fellow White Sox fans and their families. Lennon - And so this is Christmas

Removing the emoticon feature would not prevent non-responsive, juvenile (silly) posts.