Sox only have a few guys who want to lead. 

33 minutes ago, Leonard Zelig said:

Didn’t the Sox go on their best run right after the Keuchel led team meeting?  

Or when TA got back from an injury... but I’m sure it was the team meeting that changed things ?

39 minutes ago, yesterday333 said:

Or when TA got back from an injury... but I’m sure it was the team meeting that changed things ?

It was after he sat em down for some teachins 

2 hours ago, pcq said:

Sox only have a few guys who want to lead. 

And since they're now fighting it out publicly without the input of a key person it's clear...the manager isn't one of them.

5 hours ago, yesterday333 said:

Or when TA got back from an injury... but I’m sure it was the team meeting that changed things ?

I didn’t suggest that the meeting was the cause, but that may be what Keuchel is talking about.  

16 hours ago, South Side Hit Men said:

If Renteria slotted Eaton second on a regular basis, this board, Steve Stone and Ozzie Guillen would go apeshit, but  when LaRussa does it it will be mostly crickets / shout down those who question the decision.

Eloy, Abreu, Anderson, Moncada, Robert and Grandal should always occupy the top six slots in the batting order when playing.

Remember last offseason when the majority here said Abreu had no business hitting 3rd, and they were worried that Renteria would keep him there all year?

Point being, if Eaton is hitting .300 with a .375 OBP, then TLR can put him at the top of the lineup for all I care. If he struggles a bit, then TLR will slide him down to the 8 or 9 spot. 

I don’t think anybody needs to worry about lineup construction at this point. Guys will be slotted based on how they’re hitting. 

27 minutes ago, SoxBlanco said:

Remember last offseason when the majority here said Abreu had no business hitting 3rd, and they were worried that Renteria would keep him there all year?

Point being, if Eaton is hitting .300 with a .375 OBP, then TLR can put him at the top of the lineup for all I care. If he struggles a bit, then TLR will slide him down to the 8 or 9 spot. 

I don’t think anybody needs to worry about lineup construction at this point. Guys will be slotted based on how they’re hitting. 

Agreed...this isn't Tony's first rodeo.  He does know how to fill out the lineup card.

Tim Anderson and Jose Abreu are the leaders on this team. Keuchel should STFU. Starting pitchers aren't in 80% of the games and they don't stay in for more than 5-6 innings most of the other 20% so everyday players probably don't want them commenting on player performance or motivation.  Plus Keuchel knew his Astro teammates were cheating and said nothing.

I would trade Keuchel for another no. 3 starter so fast...

Edited December 12, 20205 yr by tray

4 minutes ago, tray said:

Tim Anderson and Jose Abreu are the leaders on this team. Keuchel should STFU. Starting pitchers aren't in 80% of the games and they don't stay in for more than 5-6 innings most of the other 20% so everyday players probably don't want them commenting on player performance or motivation.  Plus Keuchel knew his Astro teammates were cheating and said nothing.

I would trade Keuchel for another no. 3 starter so fast...

So you’re mad at Keuchel for not snitching out his teammates, but are totally cool with Plesac lying to his teammates and exposing them (one who is immune compromised) to a deadly virus?  You have some seriously fucked up morals bro.

11 minutes ago, tray said:

Tim Anderson and Jose Abreu are the leaders on this team. Keuchel should STFU. Starting pitchers aren't in 80% of the games and they don't stay in for more than 5-6 innings most of the other 20% so everyday players probably don't want them commenting on player performance or motivation.  Plus Keuchel knew his Astro teammates were cheating and said nothing.

I would trade Keuchel for another no. 3 starter so fast...

Anybody who thinks a player should have spoken up mid season has no sense of reality. It was hard enough for ONE player to speak up after the fact. Nobody is ratting out their teammates in the middle of a championship run, and staying quiet doesn’t make them in the wrong. 

Eaton’s injury prone rep is a little overblown. His 2017 injury was slipping on a wet base, and his 2018 injury was a surgery to clean a flap in his ankle which appears to have happened on the same play. You then look at his 2019 season. Compare his 2019 numbers to his numbers his last 2 seasons with the White Sox, they are almost identical. Defensively he has slid a bit. Maybe coming back and exclusively playing RF will get him back a bit. He does play hard, and is basically playing for his career.

5 minutes ago, Dick Allen said:

Eaton’s injury prone rep is a little overblown. His 2017 injury was slipping on a wet base, and his 2018 injury was a surgery to clean a flap in his ankle which appears to have happened on the same play. You then look at his 2019 season. Compare his 2019 numbers to his numbers his last 2 seasons with the White Sox, they are almost identical. Defensively he has slid a bit. Maybe coming back and exclusively playing RF will get him back a bit. He does play hard, and is basically playing for his career.

Except he also had the injury prone label when coming to the White Sox and we were surprised at the time that he stayed moderately healthy for 3 years. The fact that he was banged up and played fewer than 100 games in 2013 is one reason why the DBacks were willing to move him at the time (the other was his personality issues).

Sox roster page has Eaton as #1, so Madrigal will be changing. I’m thinking 5 or 12 is in his future. Lynn probably will be 31.

1 hour ago, flavum said:

Sox roster page has Eaton as #1, so Madrigal will be changing. I’m thinking 5 or 12 is in his future. Lynn probably will be 31.

And thankfully, Moncada is still #10. I was worried TLR would take it (he still doesn't have a number)

1 minute ago, Jose Abreu said:

And thankfully, Moncada is still #10. I was worried TLR would take it (he still doesn't have a number)

I think it would be a nice touch if La Russa wore 6 for Lau, and then when Tony leaves, start giving it back to players.

Too bad Madrigal can’t use the number 3. My guess is he would want 13, 33, or something in the 30s.

12 minutes ago, hi8is said:

Too bad Madrigal can’t use the number 3. My guess is he would want 13, 33, or something in the 30s.

I bet he goes to 33, McCanns old number. I think 13 is unofficially retired.

14 minutes ago, Dick Allen said:

I bet he goes to 33, McCanns old number. I think 13 is unofficially retired.

Yea, gotta be 33 then... 31 is a very strong likely number for him too if it is available. That actually would be my bet.

Edited December 12, 20205 yr by hi8is

9 minutes ago, hi8is said:

Yea, gotta be 33 then... 31 is a very strong likely number for him too if it is available. That actually would be my bet.

Who was 31 last year? Can't remember.

31 minutes ago, manbearpuig said:

Who was 31 last year? Can't remember.

Cishek?

9 minutes ago, BigHurt3515 said:

Cishek?

Yes

Lynn has worn 31 for a couple teams, so maybe good call for 33 on Madrigal, but I think Lynn will take 31...kinda looks like Lamarr Hoyt too.

25 minutes ago, flavum said:

Yes

Lynn has worn 31 for a couple teams, so maybe good call for 33 on Madrigal, but I think Lynn will take 31...kinda looks like Lamarr Hoyt too.

I was thinking we’ll finally see what a 34 year old Hoyt would’ve looked like if he hadn’t tanked out on coke

58 minutes ago, BigHurt3515 said:

Cishek?

Oh yeah. Tried to block out his time here. Thanks. 

Edited December 12, 20205 yr by manbearpuig

Great move.

Also lets not read too much into 40 games. He'll likely bounce back this year and is a massive upgrade at RF. Now we just have to find ourselves a DH and the lineup is pretty much set