This is seriously getting out of hand.  Someone in the FO (Rick Hahn) needs to go to JR and issue an ultimatum.  There's absolutely nothing to indicate TLR is a competent manager for any team, much less this team.

Time to start calling your season ticket reps.

Well, there is a reason why all the other managers dont handle the Pen like Tony, cuz it's not right.

But before we arrest Tony, we need to look at his ring and remind ourselves that he is a hall of Famer type person

1 minute ago, southsider2k5 said:

1-4 since TLR backed his bus over Mercedes a few times.

It was obviously to anyone (other than JR) that he lost the team when he did that.  He needs to go.  It was awful when they brought him in and it is somehow 10000000 times worse than any of us could have ever imagined.  Only a complete fucking idiot would take the wind out the sails of his own team they way he did.  It shows on the field and it's only going to get worse.

This was the first time the White Sox were swept in Yankee Stadium since Robin Ventura’s 2014 team.

Rick Renteria’s tanking teams finished 5-4 in the Bronx.

The Sox are now 6-9 against teams this year currently over .500.

How many times will the Sox get burnt by La Russa brining in a reliever for a second inning?

Hope the Sox get a manager focused on getting White Sox wins, as opposed to Hendriks saves, before the window closes.

Hopefully TLR just decides he can’t handle it anymore and just resigns.

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Here is my issue. I don’t disagree with the logic from LaRussa here. The problem is when the first two got on...maybe make an adjustment. Bummer isn’t getting it done at that point. But instead no matter what the result, Hendricks was getting Judge, no matter what Bummer did . 

1 minute ago, maloney.adam said:

Hopefully TLR just decides he can’t handle it anymore and just resigns.

He's completely oblivious to criticism.  Unless our beat reporters say something specific, he has no clue.  I'm being serious....I don't think he reads the sports pages, social media, sportscasts, nothing.  He's come out and said as much.

I've said this before about Hendriks but really, use him like you use Bummer.  Give him regular work.  Bring him in the 7th, 8th, even the 6th if you have to.  Use your best players first.  Keep them fresh.  Apparently in TLR's world this mindset is true for Leury Garcia but not the big money closer.  If at the end of the day you have fewer runs than the opposing team and you've lost because of it, but you've used all your best players in the toughest situations and you've tried your best, then that kind of loss is a lot easier to deal with.

TLR is like the hunter who goes home hungry with a broken arm because he figured that if he could make the kill with his pocket knife then he would still have bullets in his rifle for later when he needed them.

15 minutes ago, South Side Hit Men said:

This was the first time the White Sox were swept in Yankee Stadium since Robin Ventura’s 2014 team.

Rick Renteria’s tanking teams finished 5-4 in the Bronx.

The Sox are now 6-9 against teams this year currently over .500.

How many times will the Sox get burnt by La Russa brining in a reliever for a second inning?

Hope the Sox get a manager focused on getting White Sox wins, as opposed to Hendriks saves, before the window closes.

If "Ricky's boys don't quit," what do Tony's boys do?

22 minutes ago, YourWhatHurts said:

I've said this before about Hendriks but really, use him like you use Bummer.  Give him regular work.  Bring him in the 7th, 8th, even the 6th if you have to.  Use your best players first.  Keep them fresh.  Apparently in TLR's world this mindset is true for Leury Garcia but not the big money closer.  If at the end of the day you have fewer runs than the opposing team and you've lost because of it, but you've used all your best players in the toughest situations and you've tried your best, then that kind of loss is a lot easier to deal with.

TLR is like the hunter who goes home hungry with a broken arm because he figured that if he could make the kill with his pocket knife then he would still have bullets in his rifle for later when he needed them.

Bummer hasn’t pitched in what, 5 days?

That’s not Exactly regular work either. 

Another brilliant bullpen management day.

41 minutes ago, YourWhatHurts said:

If "Ricky's boys don't quit," what do Tony's boys do?

Hate him

1 hour ago, mmmmmbeeer said:

This is seriously getting out of hand.  Someone in the FO (Rick Hahn) needs to go to JR and issue an ultimatum.  There's absolutely nothing to indicate TLR is a competent manager for any team, much less this team.

Time to start calling your season ticket reps.

And you actually think Rick Hahn knows baseball?

26 minutes ago, Balta1701 said:

Bummer hasn’t pitched in what, 5 days?

That’s not Exactly regular work either. 

LOL then use him like you use Marshall and Foster then.

1 hour ago, mmmmmbeeer said:

This is seriously getting out of hand.  Someone in the FO (Rick Hahn) needs to go to JR and issue an ultimatum.  There's absolutely nothing to indicate TLR is a competent manager for any team, much less this team.

Time to start calling your season ticket reps.

What ultimatum do you mean?  It's very possible in the fictional situation where Rick went to Uncle Jerry and said it is him or me, Reinsdorf would just name LaRussa GM and Field Manager.

6 minutes ago, wegner said:

What ultimatum do you mean?  It's very possible in the fictional situation where Rick went to Uncle Jerry and said it is him or me, Reinsdorf would just name LaRussa GM and Field Manager.

Yeah like the guy who has to weigh Jerry Krause's feelings against whatever Michael Jordan wants to do is somehow going to pick the loyalty yes man guy over the old windbag he calls a dear friend.

17 minutes ago, wegner said:

What ultimatum do you mean?  It's very possible in the fictional situation where Rick went to Uncle Jerry and said it is him or me, Reinsdorf would just name LaRussa GM and Field Manager.

So just make official what is unofficial 

Welp. Reinsdorf the team killer strikes again.

12 minutes ago, YourWhatHurts said:

Yeah like the guy who has to weigh Jerry Krause's feelings against whatever Michael Jordan wants to do is somehow going to pick the loyalty yes man guy over the old windbag he calls a dear friend.

The untold part of the story is Jerry Krause was...right. Dennis Rodman played 23 and 12 games the next 2 years and retired. His career was effectively over but no one knew. Scottie Pippen went down 5 PPG the next year, and 7 PPG the next 2 years. Blowing it up did Jordan a favor ensuring he went out on top because that team was not sniffing another ring after ‘98.

Krause flunked the rebuild, but he earned that opportunity. 

1 hour ago, South Side Hit Men said:

This was the first time the White Sox were swept in Yankee Stadium since Robin Ventura’s 2014 team.

Rick Renteria’s tanking teams finished 5-4 in the Bronx.

The Sox are now 6-9 against teams this year currently over .500.

How many times will the Sox get burnt by La Russa brining in a reliever for a second inning?

Hope the Sox get a manager focused on getting White Sox wins, as opposed to Hendriks saves, before the window closes.

Wouldn’t have even been a save for Hendriks...but certainly did him no favors with bases already loaded against Judge.

5 runs in 3 games against the Yankees in New York. 

Yep. Totally the managers fault they got swept. 

Just now, JoeyCoralFanClub said:

5 runs in 3 games against the Yankees in New York. 

Yep. Totally the managers fault they got swept. 

The offense was garbage and the bullpen was bad, but Tony definitely played a large part in Friday’s loss at a minimum.

13 minutes ago, JoeyCoralFanClub said:

5 runs in 3 games against the Yankees in New York. 

Yep. Totally the managers fault they got swept. 

See Game 1 vs. Twins...it will go down like the game against the Rangers in 2016 in Sox lore...or Jose Paniagua in 2003, Thornton vs. Thome, Jamie Burke vs. Torii Hunter, etc.

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4 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

The offense was garbage and the bullpen was bad, but Tony definitely played a large part in Friday’s loss at a minimum.

It it tough to say what the offense would have done in extras. Offense and defense definitely let us down this series.

5 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

The offense was garbage and the bullpen was bad, but Tony definitely played a large part in Friday’s loss at a minimum.

There is some blame for Friday I guess. 

You also aren't going to win many series when your leadoff man goes 2 for 11 and when your sluggers are grounding into multiple double plays.