caulfield12 Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: Hopefully Hendriks’s home run spike was either bad luck or the Happy Fun Ball getting him. If that’s the case, then you kinda say that no matter what. Bummer being better than last year would help a lot. Nails down the stretch but inconistent a lot of the year. Hendriks really needs to go back to that multiple pitch mix to keep opponents honest. Those off speed pitches only make it that much harder to dial up the fastball. Hopefully some better pitch calling after one full season of familiarity with his arsenal will make acdiffetence. He's a horse, wants the ball practically every day and is clearly one of the emotional leaders of the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOFHurt35 Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 2 hours ago, fathom said: It’s what happens when you think too highly of guys like Leury and Engel I think that's furthest from the truth here. Maybe some folks have confidence that the other 8 in that lineup should pound the ball as well as any other team in baseball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, SoxBlanco said: I think Bummer will bounce back nicely. He was definitely inconsistent and had trouble commanding the zone at times, but he was the unluckiest pitcher I’ve ever seen last year. I’ve never seen so many ground balls deflecting off of gloves or seeing eye singles. A bit reminiscent of how Thornton would go through tough stretches even though the stuff was still there until his last couple of seasons. Bummer could be downright nasty, but had that uncanny knack of giving up weak contact that ended up with the worst possible results somehow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, HOFHurt35 said: I think that's furthest from the truth here. Maybe some folks have confidence that the other 8 in that lineup should pound the ball as well as any other team in baseball. It's more about TLR and how he utilizes his roster...Leury and Harrison will be almost impossible to get out of the everyday lineup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOFHurt35 Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 Just now, caulfield12 said: It's more about TLR and how he utilizes his roster...Leury and Harrison will be almost impossible to get out of the everyday lineup. Health will dictate that. The only reason Leury played as much as he did this past season was cause the roster was banged up all season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 20 minutes ago, SoxBlanco said: I think Bummer will bounce back nicely. He was definitely inconsistent and had trouble commanding the zone at times, but he was the unluckiest pitcher I’ve ever seen last year. I’ve never seen so many ground balls deflecting off of gloves or seeing eye singles. When that is defense quality and defensive positioning, isn’t that likely to be an ongoing problem? And one that leads to inconsistency when a few balls get through in a row? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjusttyped Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 1 minute ago, Balta1701 said: When that is defense quality and defensive positioning, isn’t that likely to be an ongoing problem? And one that leads to inconsistency when a few balls get through in a row? A 30+% strikeout rate paired with a 76% GB rate will lead to better results than Bummer got almost every time. Obviously we all saw him pitch into poor luck, but that'll happen to certain guys on any staff every year. The Sox as a team last year basically pitched right to their FIP, xFIP, etc. I don't see any reason to think Bummer won't be one of the best relievers in baseball again next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 23 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: Hendriks really needs to go back to that multiple pitch mix to keep opponents honest. Those off speed pitches only make it that much harder to dial up the fastball. Hopefully some better pitch calling after one full season of familiarity with his arsenal will make acdiffetence. He's a horse, wants the ball practically every day and is clearly one of the emotional leaders of the team. Compared to his 2 seasons as Oakland’s closer, his HR/FB rate went from 5% to 15%. That was the big negative for him last year, so - was that all bad luck and Manfred using the Happy Fun Ball in big games, or is that telling something more long term? My guess is more the former, that seemed like a lot of WTF home runs that made no sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxSteve Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 Kenny always get his guy and Coop will straighten him out, lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 4 hours ago, HOFHurt35 said: Coop will fix him Aah...those were the days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joejoesox Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 4 hours ago, Quin said: I honestly forgot that happened against us. McCann had such a great swing that year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 Do we know yet if it’s a Major League deal or not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 13 minutes ago, Tnetennba said: Do we know yet if it’s a Major League deal or not? Fegan said it was. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 3 hours ago, Balta1701 said: When that is defense quality and defensive positioning, isn’t that likely to be an ongoing problem? And one that leads to inconsistency when a few balls get through in a row? Some of it is sure. But he was getting a ton of high choppers and little dribblers because of the sinker and batters just hitting the top of the ball. Then a walk and its 3 men on and grab the pearls time . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 (edited) 17 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: Some of it is sure. But he was getting a ton of high choppers and little dribblers because of the sinker and batters just hitting the top of the ball. Then a walk and its 3 men on and grab the pearls time . The issue is between Bummer, Graveman and Kelly, that could happen to any of them at any time. That's how it is with sinkerballers. Edited March 14, 2022 by Jack Parkman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 Do we have any contract details yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 42 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said: Do we have any contract details yet? Nope not yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 16 hours ago, Balta1701 said: Compared to his 2 seasons as Oakland’s closer, his HR/FB rate went from 5% to 15%. That was the big negative for him last year, so - was that all bad luck and Manfred using the Happy Fun Ball in big games, or is that telling something more long term? My guess is more the former, that seemed like a lot of WTF home runs that made no sense. Could the ballpark be a factor? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 Going to put in a guess here and guess the roster spot will stall this deal being "official" for a little bit. This could well be a case of needing to clear Kimbrel, to get a slot open, and not needing to waive someone to do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillian Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 (edited) Was Velasquez hurt in August? He not only missed August and the first half of September, but was terrible when he returned to the mound. His numbers were almost respectable, until then. Edited March 14, 2022 by Lillian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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chw42 Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 Just now, Whisox05 said: We gave him $3 million? I'm not exactly sure what we see in him, but this guy was DFA'd by Philly last year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 2 minutes ago, Whisox05 said: 3 million? Man, they better still make a big addition this offseason. Thus far, they've spent 17 million on Harrison, Kelly and Velasquez. They also have Kimbrel still on the roster making 16 million. If these salaries stop them from going after someone like Conforto...no bueno. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 2 minutes ago, chw42 said: We gave him $3 million? I'm not exactly sure what we see in him, but this guy was DFA'd by Philly last year. Coop I mean Katz will fix him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 5 minutes ago, Tony said: 3 million? Man, they better still make a big addition this offseason. Thus far, they've spent 17 million on Harrison, Kelly and Velasquez. They also have Kimbrel still on the roster making 16 million. If these salaries stop them from going after someone like Conforto...no bueno. Hahn said pitching depth was priority #1, then they go and spend $3 million on a guy who had a ERA near 6 last year. If that's a sign of things to come, we're definitely not getting Conforto. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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