8 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said:

Id be surprised by that. Not sure what Seby adds.

Seby doesn't add anything.  He's a negative both offensively and defensively.  His one main highlight last year was working the walk in the Field of Dreams game so Tim could hit a walk-off HR.  

And it's not like he would necessarily get snapped up by someone else.  My guess is he could clear waivers and get re-signed for AAA depth.  

From what I read he keeps the balls in front of him and is a great framer.

 

Both guys (McGuire and Collins) are former 1st round picks. Both guys are the same age. Classic change of scenery perhaps.

Oh and there's been some absolute gems in this thread already. GGs. 

This is what people wanted, right? A backup C who is solid with the glove?

It's odd, but not surprising to see the miserable mopes complain about this. It's a good trade that makes moving Grandal to DH 40-50 games a lot more palatable

1 hour ago, YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! said:

Another wasted 1st round pick. Sigh.

I mean McGuire was also a 1st round pick and is only a month older…if you just don’t look at the back of the jersey you can pretend like our 1st round pick catcher is on the roster 

I guess you could say he's good at stroking his penis in the driver's seat of his vehicle to the point of climaxing

3 minutes ago, TheFutureIsNear said:

I mean McGuire was also a 1st round pick and is only a month older…if you just don’t look at the back of the jersey you can pretend like our 1st round pick catcher is on the roster 

True, sounds like he is good with cradling balls so I’ll give him a chance. 

Collins another first round bust, never improved.

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1 hour ago, chw42 said:

What the hell happened to McGuire's power these last 2 years? He went from a .200 ISO to 2020 Nick Madrigal the past 2 years.

He's a slapdick on and off the field.  

2 minutes ago, Harold's Leg Lift said:

He's a slapdick on and off the field.  

We went from big dick Nick to big dick Mic.

12 minutes ago, CeaseAndExist said:

This is what people wanted, right? A backup C who is solid with the glove?

It's odd, but not surprising to see the miserable mopes complain about this. It's a good trade that makes moving Grandal to DH 40-50 games a lot more palatable

In all honesty, this is a great move outside of some minor character concerns.  Maybe a change of scenery gets the bat going a bit as well.

17 minutes ago, Lillian said:

Why is he considered any more useful than Ciuffo? I thought that they had found a solid defense back up catcher, with him.

Ciuffo has a grand total of 56 major league PAs.  McGuire has 400.  So you can't even get a handle on Ciuffo.  Plus, I assume Ciuffo still has options. 

1 minute ago, VAfan said:

Ciuffo has a grand total of 56 major league PAs.  McGuire has 400.  So you can't even get a handle on Ciuffo.  Plus, I assume Ciuffo still has options. 

Ciuffo isn’t on the 40 man roster.

Good trade until Carlos Perez shows up

48 minutes ago, VAfan said:

Seby doesn't add anything.  He's a negative both offensively and defensively.  His one main highlight last year was working the walk in the Field of Dreams game so Tim could hit a walk-off HR.  

And it's not like he would necessarily get snapped up by someone else.  My guess is he could clear waivers and get re-signed for AAA depth.  

Or hitting three homers in a game...

1 hour ago, chw42 said:

Collins may be a better bat with a bit more of a ceiling at the plate, but he just never made enough contact to stick as a hitter. His framing and defense was also some of the worst in baseball last year. It was time to move on.

Agreed, but thats a low bar. Collins is a woof hitter and always will be

28 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

In all honesty, this is a great move outside of some minor character concerns.  Maybe a change of scenery gets the bat going a bit as well.

Well, considering we just gave up on Hostetler's 1-1 and he's now in pro scouting...it's something.  The gradual elimination of every single first round draft pick from the active roster other than TA7 and AV (for now).  Maybe better to fully write out Andrew Vaughn in this thread...

54 minutes ago, VAfan said:

Seby doesn't add anything.  He's a negative both offensively and defensively.  His one main highlight last year was working the walk in the Field of Dreams game so Tim could hit a walk-off HR.  

And it's not like he would necessarily get snapped up by someone else.  My guess is he could clear waivers and get re-signed for AAA depth.  

Sebys 3 hr game was one of the highlights of the season.

I just checked McGuire's split stats. He has actually hit RHP pretty well, in his short Major League career. If he's really a very good defensive catcher, it looks like a good acquisition.

 

 

 

 

1 hour ago, ChiSox59 said:

Id be surprised by that. Not sure what Seby adds.

I guess for the first month with expanded rosters you can DH Grandal and give him more rest early.

3 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said:

I guess for the first month with expanded rosters you can DH Grandal and give him more rest early.

I’d much rather have an extra pitcher and an extra position player, with guys already getting hurt.

1 hour ago, KrankinSox said:

I am jacked up for this trade. Really think this will help us spank the competition. Collins wasn't a jerk, but he was really starting to rub me the wrong way. Now Grandal won't have to play with himself as the only legit catcher on the roster. This will give Tony a hand when setting the lineup when Grandal needs a day off.  Not sure McGuire has much of an offensive stroke, but he can handle himself behind the plate and maybe he'll whack a few out of the park.

That is well done!!

Way to take your analysis in ✋ 

33 minutes ago, Balta1701 said:

I’d much rather have an extra pitcher and an extra position player, with guys already getting hurt.

The bench can be flexible though having two guys (Leury and one of Mendick/Romy) who can play just about everywhere even on a healthy 26-man roster.