Balta1701 Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 2 minutes ago, Jerksticks said: It would be #1 immediately. This is correct, because of Robert. If he traded everyone other than Robert I’m guessing around number 15? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 12 minutes ago, Jerksticks said: It would be #1 immediately. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 11 minutes ago, wegner said: Even if you went for it, it’s easier said than done. Only about 2 teams actually have the talent to afford Robert with the heats of control he has, and it’s entirely possible they won’t pay the price we would want. They wouldn’t wind up with a top flight system if they had to take less to move Robert, and it takes two to tango. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 1 hour ago, GreatScott82 said: It’s a shame KW/Hahn wont just pull a Theo Epstein and resign. We all know Jerry isn’t firing his buddies. I’m not the biggest fan of Theo, but I do admire his leadership and the ability of knowing when it’s time to step down from a front office position. He mentioned in an interview that change in leadership is more than necessary after 10 years. Things get stale, and when it is no longer working, it’s time to give someone else a shot at it. It’s safe to say things have been very stale on the Southside. Fans have had enough of this current front office and change is not only necessary but it should be demanded by every Sox fan. I can't see Theo or Jed talking such blatant bullshit like "People are accountable" or "just a few years ago we were named the best front office in baseball". Kenny is on record saying he is walking away once his contract is done, but don't see Hahn going anywhere until Jerry dies and only if someone outside of the Reinsdorf family has control. Paxson is still with the Bulls, likely Jerry and or Michael's spy at this stage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 19 minutes ago, wegner said: That's Bluto...not Bruto. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 8 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: Even if you went for it, it’s easier said than done. Only about 2 teams actually have the talent to afford Robert with the heats of control he has, and it’s entirely possible they won’t pay the price we would want. They wouldn’t wind up with a top flight system if they had to take less to move Robert, and it takes two to tango. Oh I really don't want them to do it, partly because I don't trust Hahn. I doubt we will be happy with what he gets this trade deadline. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 4 minutes ago, Lip Man 1 said: That's Bluto...not Bruto. I think Bruto was the character Jim Bulushi played in "Animal House 4....return to Faber" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 10 back with 65 left Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 This thread is not even on page one when sorted by most replies. Need to get to 238 pages to claim the top spot in terms of responses. This thread is .378 on the way there, closing in soon on Rick Hahn's win percentage. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chimpton Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 2 hours ago, flavum said: 10 back with 65 left So still a mathematical chance! 😁 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydBannister1983 Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 On 7/14/2023 at 10:45 AM, Dick Allen said: So if this is accurate, the White Sox have had 2 7 game winning streaks the last 10.5 seasons. FIRE RICK HAHN Isn’t that nearly impossible? I would love to know if that is the lowest. I haven’t been able to find anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R U Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 15 hours ago, Lip Man 1 said: I don't ever recall Kenny saying anything along those lines. Doesn't mean it didn't happen but I don't remember anything like that. I do remember JR saying that he doesn't believe in paying for "potential." Well they kind of did that with Robert though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeC Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 2 hours ago, T R U said: Well they kind of did that with Robert though And Moncada. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R U Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 6 minutes ago, JoeC said: And Moncada. They traded for Moncada, Luis was an international signing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeC Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 4 hours ago, T R U said: They traded for Moncada, Luis was an international signing They signed him to that massive extension right away though, basically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeC Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 Nvm - contract signed after 2019 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 On 7/20/2023 at 1:41 AM, Chimpton said: So still a mathematical chance! 😁 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted July 22, 2023 Author Share Posted July 22, 2023 Bump this s%*#. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted July 22, 2023 Author Share Posted July 22, 2023 Let the record show that our entire group of positional players have combined for 1.4 fWAR if you exclude Robert. We rank 26th overall in wRC+. Highlights include: An everyday 1B with a 104 wRC+ An everyday LF with a 103 wRC+ A part time DH/RF with a 76 wRC+ A part time RF with a 35 wRC+ How do you expect to win when you’re forgoing offense at the most critical power positions? And this doesn’t even address the horrors in the middle infield and elsewhere in the lineup. Rick Hahn and the coaching staff should be embarrassed with that his s%*#-show of an offense. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurtCG Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 1 hour ago, Chicago White Sox said: Let the record show that our entire group of positional players have combined for 1.4 fWAR if you exclude Robert. We rank 26th overall in wRC+. Highlights include: An everyday 1B with a 104 wRC+ An everyday LF with a 103 wRC+ A part time DH/RF with a 76 wRC+ A part time RF with a 35 wRC+ How do you expect to win when you’re forgoing offense at the most critical power positions? And this doesn’t even address the horrors in the middle infield and elsewhere in the lineup. Rick Hahn and the coaching staff should be embarrassed with that his s%*#-show of an offense. The Sox are back to being mired in mediocrity. It's like 2016 all over again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 1 hour ago, LittleHurtCG said: The Sox are back to being mired in mediocrity. It's like 2016 all over again. Except that would mean a team finishing #13-17 every season. We're not even approximating that standard... 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 1 hour ago, LittleHurtCG said: The Sox are back to being mired in mediocrity. It's like 2016 all over again. The Sox have been mired in mediocrity over the past 25 seasons (under .500). Hahn would have to substantially improve to reach mediocre level. White Sox fWAR Team Rankings 2013: 28th Position Players & 16th Pitchers 2014: 25th Position Players & 23rd Pitchers 2015: 30th Position Players & 10th Pitchers 2016: 21st Position Players & 10th Pitchers 2017: 18th Position Players & 30th Pitchers 2018: 23rd Position Players & 25th Pitchers 2019: 22nd Position Players & 19th Pitchers 2021: 9th Position Players & 1st Pitchers - Cues One Shining Moment 2022: 21st Position Players & 10th Pitchers 2023: 27th Position Players & 25th Pitchers Fake 60 game season not included. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 5 hours ago, South Side Hit Men said: The Sox have been mired in mediocrity over the past 25 seasons (under .500). Hahn would have to substantially improve to reach mediocre level. White Sox fWAR Team Rankings 2013: 28th Position Players & 16th Pitchers 2014: 25th Position Players & 23rd Pitchers 2015: 30th Position Players & 10th Pitchers 2016: 21st Position Players & 10th Pitchers 2017: 18th Position Players & 30th Pitchers 2018: 23rd Position Players & 25th Pitchers 2019: 22nd Position Players & 19th Pitchers 2021: 9th Position Players & 1st Pitchers - Cues One Shining Moment 2022: 21st Position Players & 10th Pitchers 2023: 27th Position Players & 25th Pitchers Fake 60 game season not included. I don’t think it can be emphasized enough. Rick has been GM for 11 seasons. In only 1 of those 11 seasons could fans go to the ballpark and see a team better than mediocre, and most of the time a lot less. Fire Rick Hahn before he does even more damage. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 42 minutes ago, Dick Allen said: I don’t think it can be emphasized enough. Rick has been GM for 11 seasons. In only 1 of those 11 seasons could fans go to the ballpark and see a team better than mediocre, and most of the time a lot less. Fire Rick Hahn before he does even more damage. Rick Hahn woke up today. Fire Rick Hahn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted July 23, 2023 Author Share Posted July 23, 2023 One is not like the other 🤔 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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