1 minute ago, caulfield12 said:

If only the Dodgers Yankees or Astros can win, is that really good for the sport?

How so?

What do you mean "CAN WIN"?  These are the only organizations who WANT TO WIN!!!  Good for them for doing something such as PAYING PLAYERS, TRADING FOR ASSETS, etc.

1 minute ago, ThatBallHitDeep_WAYBack said:

What do you mean "CAN WIN"?  These are the only organizations who WANT TO WIN!!!  Good for them for doing something such as PAYING PLAYERS, TRADING FOR ASSETS, etc.

Obviously the Braves as well...and Mets under Cohen.

Basically, just five or six teams now.

4 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

If only the Dodgers Yankees or Astros can win, is that really good for the sport?

How so?

At least the Padres actually try to win against the team with ten straight playoff appearances, biggest budget and best front office...

Huh? How many titles have those 3 orgs won over the past two decades?

10 minutes ago, fathom said:

Some smoke about Soto to Padres is likely.  That would really stink, as I hate that org.

We hate them because we wish we were them. Aggressive GM, stocked farm system, and made our GM look like a clown ?  in the Tatis trade.

1 minute ago, HoosierSox said:

We hate them because we wish we were them. Aggressive GM, stocked farm system, and made our GM look like a clown ?  in the Tatis trade.

Nah. The padres haven’t won anything in their franchise history. Zero World Series trophies and two pennants in 53 years of existence. 

12 minutes ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said:

Nah. The padres haven’t won anything in their franchise history. Zero World Series trophies and two pennants in 53 years of existence. 

And Prellers trades have been largely bad, aside from the obvious one.

Rick is going to add another reliever and do nothing about his woeful offense isn't he?

12 minutes ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said:

Nah. The padres haven’t won anything in their franchise history. Zero World Series trophies and two pennants in 53 years of existence. 

Sounds exactly like the Sox. 
 

Except the relative positions have reversed from last year.  And you can’t even compare the enthusiasm from the two fanbases.

That’s the difference replacing two managers and finding a steadier calming hand in Melvin.

Where would the White Sox be with Luis Robert out for 4 1/2 months?

1 minute ago, Buehrle>Wood said:

And Prellers trades have been largely bad, aside from the obvious one.

Cronenworth bad?  Darvish bad?  Musgrove bad?  Manaea bad?

Snell and Clevinger haven’t worked perfectly, but they keep going for it.

 

Wish Hahn could be that bad!

I don’t want to hear any excuses that the organization doesn’t have enough money to acquire any significant bats. JR has enough money and the power to spend it to improve this team. He just doesn’t want to. 

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Just now, DirtySox said:

Rick is going to add another reliever and do nothing about his woeful offense isn't he?

As dissatisfying as not adding a bat might seem, the reality is that if at least three out of Moncada, Eloy, Robert and Yaz don't stay healthy and become more productive, adding one bat won't make the difference.

If a 1-7 of Anderson-Moncada-Robert-Abreu-Jimenez-Grandal-Vaughn can't start producing more than 4 runs per game, adding Joc Pederson or Joey Gallo isn't going to put them over the top.

4 minutes ago, DirtySox said:

Rick is going to add another reliever and do nothing about his woeful offense isn't he?

All the relievers!

The Sox and Padres are both historically pathetic franchises. I don’t like the Padres, but I’d rather have my team actively making moves to try to win, rather than whatever the Sox are doing.

20 minutes ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said:

Huh? How many titles have those 3 orgs won over the past two decades?

The Giants won three, Royals one, Cubs one, Red Sox two or three…but none of those teams are remotely close anymore.

Obviously SF had that one great overachieving season last year.

Going forward, there are just 5-6 teams capable of winning, maybe the Cards if they add Soto but they have so many older players to replace.  Maybe if they had the Yankees’ version of Matt Carpenter still.

 

LAD, Houston, NY, Atlanta…then maybe the Blue Jays, Padres and StL with Juan Soto.

Imagine JR absorbing one bad contract like that…maybe in a full decade?  The only question remaining is whether the Dodgers beat the SD package two years in a row.  They’re on the verge of losing Turner to FA, but Dustin May is looking closer and closer to returning with his dominant stuff.  Could really use another outfield bat, too.

 

7:41am: There is a “growing sense” that the Padres are the likeliest landing spot for not only Soto but also Josh Bell, tweets Barry Svrluga of the Washington Post. There’s some momentum in those talks, he adds. Similarly, the Post’s Jesse Dougherty tweets that the Nationals are beginning to narrow the field.

San Diego, of course, already has Eric Hosmer installed at first base, but they’ve been trying for more than a year to unload the remainder of that contract. Speculatively speaking, if the Nats truly want to maximize the return on Soto (and perhaps Bell), they could be the ones to absorb the remaining three years and $39MM on Hosmer’s contract themselves. The trio of Hosmer, Patrick Corbinand Stephen Strasburg would be a lot of underwater contracts for one team, of course, but the Nats have little else on the payroll in the immediate future.

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8 minutes ago, DirtySox said:

Rick is going to add another reliever and do nothing about his woeful offense isn't he?

Honestly, this is kind of my hope given my fear that they'll sell the farm and screw it up anyway.

Just play this out and wait until the off-season when TLR walks away, we get a real manager, and make the moves necessary to fix this.

1 minute ago, MiddleCoastBias said:

Honestly, this is kind of my hope given my fear that they'll sell the farm and screw it up anyway.

Just play this out and wait until the off-season when TLR walks away, we get a real manager, and make the moves necessary to fix this.

If this is how we feel, again fire Rick Hahn. 

15 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said:

All the relievers!

And the bullpen will still be average at best.

57 minutes ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said:

If Lance Lynn doesn’t hurt his knee, his ERA is half what it is today.

Explain your relation to Rick Hahn?  Are you his son?  There have been rumors that he’s posted here for years and I’m starting to think we’ve solved the riddle.

Just now, Dick Allen said:

And the bullpen will still be average at best.

While costing $50M

listen guys, nobody hates this stuff more than me. 

But here is some dumb shit to make us silly

 

Just now, bmags said:

listen guys, nobody hates this stuff more than me. 

But here is some dumb shit to make us silly

 

Fornelli usually trolls with the eyeball stuff but we'll see.

1 minute ago, bmags said:

listen guys, nobody hates this stuff more than me. 

But here is some dumb shit to make us silly

 

Well that's enough to keep me on Soxtalk for another 8 hours....thanks.

1 minute ago, Sockin said:

Fornelli usually trolls with the eyeball stuff but we'll see.

yes, this is likely sarcastic, but I am contractually obligated to post it.

9 minutes ago, SonofaRoache said:

If this is how we feel, again fire Rick Hahn. 

Rick Hahn is a dead man walking.   This better not be another Ryan Pace 2.0 moment where the owners will allow him to try to save himself here.   Just like when Pace was allowed to not only draft another QB in the first round (after his past failures) but also trade valuable capital to go up and get him (Fields).

I want someone else making personnel decisions going forward.