Quin Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 The Sox won and are once again at the fabled .500 mark, but last game's vibes can be summed up as this: Pitching for the White Sox: Dylan Cease: 10-4, 2.03, 154 K In the AL, Cease is 4th in fWAR, 3rd in ERA, and 2nd in strikeouts. Dylan's been great, but he wasn't an All-Star, because the White Sox have to win games by the skin of their teeth against All-Stars like the A's Paul Blackburn, who if you read yesterday's gamethread, you'll realize is basically the most average pitcher possible. Adam Oller: 1-3, 8.07 ERA, 22K Listen, like Dylan Cease, Adam Oller is a RHP with a fairly notable mustache. After that, he sucks. My lord, if the Sox lose to this guy and can't break .500, it should be considered a crime. Anyway, let the Dylan Cease Cy Young campaign continue. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 First game in person since I moved back to Chicago. Thank god Cease will be on the mound. Hopefully today is an absolute bloodbath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 2 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said: First game in person since I moved back to Chicago. Thank god Cease will be on the mound. Hopefully today is an absolute bloodbath. The only bloodbath will be the ST game thread if the offense disappears for 2/3rd's of the game again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 47 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: The only bloodbath will be the ST game thread if the offense disappears for 2/3rd's of the game again. And rightly so 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reiks12 Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 this SHOULD be an easy victory but we know how our hitters will score 1-2 runs against AAA trash pitching Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 (edited) With a win today the Sox can finish July 15-11 . Need to do better in August. Much better. Let's see if we are getting any help . My priorities 2 LH bats . Sox could've won a lot more games with a few more runs and HR's. However, never can have enough pitching. Going all Jay Cuda on you here. In games where the Sox and their opponent scores 5 or less runs, ( What I call Hockey score games) the Sox are 30-17 . There obviously can't be any 5-5 ties so all scores are of the 5-4, 4-3 ,3-1, 4-0 ( you get the picture) nature. Home Record in these games is 14-10, Road Record 16-7 , so even with the crap defense and crap hitting the Sox are at their best winning low scoring games. That means the pitching is carrying them to wins despite what we are seeing from Lucas, Lynn, the departed Keuchel and the up and down BP In any game where the Sox or the opponent score 6+ runs the Sox are 20-33 . This is where the Sox lose a lot of run differential and games. So the hitting and pitching is good enough to win low scoring games but when the pitching is bad the Sox don't have nearly enough offense to make up for it. Higher scoring games the Sox lose often. Basically means the Sox need more offense and more pitching but we all feel better scoring more runs keeping games close, balancing the line up and hitting more bombs. If Gavin Sheets and Jake Burger are you leading HR's hitters at home you are in big trouble. You have offensive problems at home and also means Sheets and Burger have hit no home runs on the road yet our home record sucks and our road record is OK. Losing at home is basically all on the cores inability to hit at home especially HR's. Before I did all this I have been insisting the Sox get 2 more LH bats, 1 starter and 1 more reliever and the core has to do better. Tall order for a team that probably doesn't have enough pieces to get 4 decent players and you would think if getting 4 pieces was going to happen they would have got at least 1 of them by now. If they want to improve this year they have to play the rental market. They can't afford anyone with an extra year. Maybe you can do without an Ian Happ but only if the Sox can get Joey Wendle , Martin Perez and a good LH BP piece like Matt Moore and better hitting from the core. Then just hang in there long enough to see if Colas can give the Sox better defense and more LH pop especially at home if he can continue to produce in the minors and come up Sept. 12. Happ and Perez would cost the most. Eliminate Happ. If the Sox are going to make a trade for starting pitching Castillo is gone and Perez is the best available SP the Sox can realistically afford. It won't be Rodon, Montas, Mahle or Syndergaard because they don't have the pieces to get them and Perez has been better than all those guys along with pitching great against the Astros, Rays and Mariners. No starts against the Yankees. It would also prevent Minnesota from possibly trading for him. Perez also instantly becomes your #2 starter behind Cease. Despite what anyone thinks of his career before this year he's been almost as good as Cease has been this year, 2.52 ERA and 3.07 FIP. Snagging him as a rental could hurt. With the upcoming 3 game suspension Wendle can fill in at SS .Otherwise he would be the strong side of a platoon with Harrison . This also take away AB's from Leury. Edited July 31, 2022 by CaliSoxFanViaSWside 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxBlanco Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 This matchup reminds me of the Sox (Sale) vs the Braves in 2016 and Houston (Verlander) vs the Tigers in 2019. The latter was possibly the biggest betting favorite ever. The former was also a huge betting favorite for the Sox. Both Sale and Verlander got beat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highland Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 39 minutes ago, reiks12 said: this SHOULD be an easy victory but we know how our hitters will score 1-2 runs against AAA trash pitching Should be because I can't see the A's breaking through against Cease unless he has a real bad day. But this offense just isn't very good so this can be a close game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brijames1957 Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 There are no easy games/wins for this team. The sooner this team realizes they are now the hunters and not the hunted the better off they will be. There are 62 games left and they all will be difficult. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
35thstreetswarm Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 39 minutes ago, SoxBlanco said: This matchup reminds me of the Sox (Sale) vs the Braves in 2016 and Houston (Verlander) vs the Tigers in 2019. The latter was possibly the biggest betting favorite ever. The former was also a huge betting favorite for the Sox. Both Sale and Verlander got beat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 No Yoan or Yaz today. AV at 1b, Jose DHing. Leury at 3B. Seby catching. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan49 Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 1 hour ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: With a win today the Sox can finish July 15-11 . Need to do better in August. Much better. Let's see if we are getting any help . My priorities 2 LH bats . Sox could've won a lot more games with a few more runs and HR's. However, never can have enough pitching. Going all Jay Cuda on you here. In games where the Sox and their opponent scores 5 or less runs, ( What I call Hockey score games) the Sox are 30-17 . There obviously can't be any 5-5 ties so all scores are of the 5-4, 4-3 ,3-1, 4-0 ( you get the picture) nature. Home Record in these games is 14-10, Road Record 16-7 , so even with the crap defense and crap hitting the Sox are at their best winning low scoring games. That means the pitching is carrying them to wins despite what we are seeing from Lucas, Lynn, the departed Keuchel and the up and down BP In any game where the Sox or the opponent score 6+ runs the Sox are 20-33 . This is where the Sox lose a lot of run differential and games. So the hitting and pitching is good enough to win low scoring games but when the pitching is bad the Sox don't have nearly enough offense to make up for it. Higher scoring games the Sox lose often. Basically means the Sox need more offense and more pitching but we all feel better scoring more runs keeping games close, balancing the line up and hitting more bombs. If Gavin Sheets and Jake Burger are you leading HR's hitters at home you are in big trouble. You have offensive problems at home and also means Sheets and Burger have hit no home runs on the road yet our home record sucks and our road record is OK. Losing at home is basically all on the cores inability to hit at home especially HR's. Before I did all this I have been insisting the Sox get 2 more LH bats, 1 starter and 1 more reliever and the core has to do better. Tall order for a team that probably doesn't have enough pieces to get 4 decent players and you would think if getting 4 pieces was going to happen they would have got at least 1 of them by now. If they want to improve this year they have to play the rental market. They can't afford anyone with an extra year. Maybe you can do without an Ian Happ but only if the Sox can get Joey Wendle , Martin Perez and a good LH BP piece like Matt Moore and better hitting from the core. Then just hang in there long enough to see if Colas can give the Sox better defense and more LH pop especially at home if he can continue to produce in the minors and come up Sept. 12. Happ and Perez would cost the most. Eliminate Happ. If the Sox are going to make a trade for starting pitching Castillo is gone and Perez is the best available SP the Sox can realistically afford. It won't be Rodon, Montas, Mahle or Syndergaard because they don't have the pieces to get them and Perez has been better than all those guys along with pitching great against the Astros, Rays and Mariners. No starts against the Yankees. It would also prevent Minnesota from possibly trading for him. Perez also instantly becomes your #2 starter behind Cease. Despite what anyone thinks of his career before this year he's been almost as good as Cease has been this year, 2.52 ERA and 3.07 FIP. Snagging him as a rental could hurt. With the upcoming 3 game suspension Wendle can fill in at SS .Otherwise he would be the strong side of a platoon with Harrison . This also take away AB's from Leury. I don't disagree at all but a good LH bat has been needed for seemingly forever. It's obvious the front office doesn't believe it's important enough. I don't understand it, but it hasn't changed in a decade so why would it now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy U Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 How much is too much to give up to increase the marginal chance this garbage team wins 1 playoff series? I wouldn’t give up much and they don’t have much. This regime’s long history of prospect overpays (Semien, Tatis, etc) has me very wary about what they will give up. And their poor acquisition history has me wary of who they will get (Shields, Swisher, Smardzjia, Yonder, Cesar, etc.). Hence, I am rooting for them to stand pat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewick Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 The Sox are facing the worst team in the American league trotting out a guy with an 8 plus era, with thier ace on the mound and I have absolutely zero confidence in thier ability to win this game... such is this 2022 season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 Tony La Russa as Snidely Whiplash - Yes, let's give Oakland a fair chance since we have such a dominant SP advantage. Hopefully, Tony will keep dabbing and the Sox win 10-1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Hibbard Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 I’ll be there with my Southside Jimenez jersey rooting like crazy and suspending disbelief Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 Got to get Garcia in there this series Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dohnut Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 1 hour ago, ChiSox59 said: No Yoan or Yaz today. AV at 1b, Jose DHing. Leury at 3B. Seby catching. I don’t know why we do this to ourselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 9 hours ago, Quin said: Summary of the last 15 years of my life: I feel ya Ben. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 1 hour ago, ChiSox59 said: No Yoan or Yaz today. AV at 1b, Jose DHing. Leury at 3B. Seby catching. Moncada has to be in there every day until it's crystal clear that his bat is no help. In the meantime grab Joey Wendle . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Timmy U said: How much is too much to give up to increase the marginal chance this garbage team wins 1 playoff series? I wouldn’t give up much and they don’t have much. This regime’s long history of prospect overpays (Semien, Tatis, etc) has me very wary about what they will give up. And their poor acquisition history has me wary of who they will get (Shields, Swisher, Smardzjia, Yonder, Cesar, etc.). Hence, I am rooting for them to stand pat. How much is standing pat going to help , this year or in future years ? Unless you think the Sox are going to fire TLR, Hahn and the whole coaching staff and all the strength and conditioning coaches for the 2nd year in a row you're still stuck with hoping the same guys make better moves in the off season. Edited July 31, 2022 by CaliSoxFanViaSWside Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 1 hour ago, soxfan49 said: I don't disagree at all but a good LH bat has been needed for seemingly forever. It's obvious the front office doesn't believe it's important enough. I don't understand it, but it hasn't changed in a decade so why would it now? It's the most obvious need but Happ is going to cost a lot having that extra year which is why I said forget him and see if Colas is ready in Sept.If someone wants Vaughn or Eloy then maybe the Sox cant get someone they need but no one really wants to trade Eloy or Vaughn . If some of those pitchers the Sox are rumored in on are actually serious considerations then Happ should also be a serious consideration. SHould be interesting to see what happens but I'd be shocked if they get anyone of consequence. And if they do, wooo, it'll be a madhouse around here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reiks12 Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 24 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: It's the most obvious need but Happ is going to cost a lot having that extra year which is why I said forget him and see if Colas is ready in Sept. How is Happ at 2b? would be a good fit next season if Colas is ready for right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 3 minutes ago, reiks12 said: How is Happ at 2b? would be a good fit next season if Colas is ready for right. Not good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 Winning requires a mighty effort so let’s strive mightily to win this game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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