3 minutes ago, fathom said:

Thing that sucks is it’s too late to make an impactful change. I’m sure even if Frank got fired, it would just be someone who shares his philosophy.

Are we sure that Barkett shares Menechino’s philosophy?  He seems to be more about swing mechanics: get into your legs and drive the ball.  I like the progress Sosa, Rodriguez, and Cespedes made at Birmingham this year.  They all have started walking more.  Maybe hire Barkett or Charlie Romero.

Just now, HahnsKiddieTable said:

That’s Tony’s single them to death approach he’s brought into the season from 2003

The main problem is that our team is very slow, you practically need to bat four hits to score a run.

6 minutes ago, fathom said:

I agree to an extent. This core isn’t good enough to compete with the top teams in baseball.

I've been screaming that for 13 months. It was beyond obvious a year ago. 

I remember getting a metric ton of shit last year and this winter for that opinion. 

Edited August 7, 20223 yr by Jack Parkman

This is team is just so fucking miserable to watch. They are better off in the draft lottery than making the playoffs this season.

4 minutes ago, Harry Chappas said:

Do guys on this team really want to win? 

Nah, they have been paid already. The only person who continues to bust their ass and go all out is Abreu. The rest could care less

1 minute ago, DirtySox said:

This is team is just so fucking miserable to watch. They are better off in the draft lottery than making the playoffs this season.

Prospect hugger

1 woeful hit. This front office and coaching staff deserves to be shit canned

MOAR GROUND BALLS!!!!

1 minute ago, fathom said:

Prospect hugger

Damn right. The prospects are 10 times more fun to watch than the major league club this season.

Oh wow!!!!!!

Barf!!!

3 minutes ago, fathom said:

I agree to an extent. This core isn’t good enough to compete with the top teams in baseball.

Again, this is the only thing that matters with the organization, and it’s why there isn’t an easy answer. 

We all know Hahn and Kenny aren’t going anywhere. So if they blow it up again, why should we expect anything different? 
 

Additionally, this is NOT the same situation as last time. Because this season has gotten so bad, there is suddenly a ton of bad money on this team. Moncada, Eloy, even Robert don’t have a ton of value, if any at all. You trading Cease? So you’re going into a 5-6 year rebuild? 
 

If I was totally in charge, I fire the entire FO, as well as the coaching staff (obviously) but I try it again for the next two years with this core. They’ve invested too much at this point, you almost have to see it though. If it’s still the same lifeless ball by the trade deadline of 2023, I think I’m blowing it up. 

1 minute ago, DirtySox said:

Damn right. The prospects are 10 times more fun to watch than the major league club this season.

I agree, until they come up and seemingly lose all their tools.  Some of the guys they’ve messed up is hard to believe.  

I honestly wish they were getting no hit. Maybe then Menechino's job might be on the line. 

21 outs tonight

12 groundouts

6 strikeouts

Thats right, only 3 outcomes that resulted in outs that didnt involve either a groundball or strikeout.

your 2022 White Sox

BOYCOTT

44 minutes ago, fathom said:

There’s going to be massive organizational changes this offseason, IMO

I really hope you're right about that. 

1 minute ago, Tony said:

Again, this is the only thing that matters with the organization, and it’s why there isn’t an easy answer. 

We all know Hahn and Kenny aren’t going anywhere. So if they blow it up again, why should we expect anything different? 
 

Additionally, this is NOT the same situation as last time. Because this season has gotten so bad, there is suddenly a ton of bad money on this team. Moncada, Eloy, even Robert don’t have a ton of value, if any at all. You trading Cease? So you’re going into a 5-6 year rebuild? 
 

If I was totally in charge, I fire the entire FO, as well as the coaching staff (obviously) but I try it again for the next two years with this core. They’ve invested too much at this point, you almost have to see it though. If it’s still the same lifeless ball by the trade deadline of 2023, I think I’m blowing it up. 

They have to reshape the roster though.  Time to get more athletic and a few lefty hitters.  Vaughn absolutely should be dealt, and I know he’s a lefty, but I would be surprised if Yoan is back next year. 

AV been hanging around with Moncada whose been hanging around with TA whose been hanging around with Garcia, ad nauseum…

It is easy for Stone to criticize and suggest that players are not working hard enough.  These guys can work 24/7 trying to improve but they just aren't very good.

The Sox are probably the 15th best team out of 30. ...maybe.  All the disappointment is due to inflated expectations from the likes of Rick Hahn and people in the sports media. It is sport for a lot of fans and people in the media to build up a team or a player, promote inflated expectations.,then rip them a new @ hole and spend hours whining about how they fvked up. That's what is done here, every day.

 

 

How about this lineup?

Anderson - SS

Robert - CF

Jimenez - DH

Abreu - 1B

Vaughn - LF

Pollock - RF

Zavala - C 

Harrison - 2B

Moncada - 3B

I wonder if Hahn has started receiving fan hate email 

And now Yoan hurting the team in the field….ffs bring burger back up 

1 minute ago, fathom said:

They have to reshape the roster though.  Time to get more athletic and a few lefty hitters.  Vaughn absolutely should be dealt, and I know he’s a lefty, but I would be surprised if Yoan is back next year. 

With guys like Yoan, there’s no good that happens by moving him. Either he gets better with a different coaching staff next year, or he gets closer to done with his contract. No one is giving anything of value with his current performance.

Just now, The Beast said:

How about this lineup?

Anderson - SS

Robert - CF

Jimenez - DH

Abreu - 1B

Vaughn - LF

Pollock - RF

Zavala - C 

Harrison - 2B

Moncada - 3B

And run it out there every day for 2 weeks. See where they are at the end of the 2 weeks. 

Just now, tray said:

It is easy for Stone to criticize and suggest that players are not working hard enough.  These guys can work 24/7 trying to improve but they just aren't very good.

The Sox are probably the 15th best team out of 30. ...maybe.  All the disappointment is due to inflated expectations from the likes of Rick Hahn and people in the sports media. It is sport for a lot of fans and people in the media to build up a team or a player, promote inflated expectations.,then rip them a new @ hole and spend hours whining about how they fvked up. That's what is done here, every day.

 

 

Does it look like Moncada takes his fitness seriously?