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2023 MLB offseason signings and rumors thread

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29 minutes ago, Quin said:

However, who says no:

Devers / Sale for Montgomery / Colas / Popeye

So the White Sox are taking on $50 million and paying the Luxury Tax?

Jerry Reinsdorf.

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1 hour ago, Sox72 said:

Sale. 

 

38 minutes ago, Balta1701 said:

So the White Sox are taking on $50 million and paying the Luxury Tax?

Jerry Reinsdorf.

These are the answers I wanted.

1 hour ago, Quin said:

However, who says no:

Devers / Sale for Montgomery / Colas / Popeye

Trade the farm for Sale so he can be a part of two White Sox rebuilding fire sale trades when they inevitably pull the plug.  I like it. 

Sale for Moncada and Kopech

Who says no? 

(for this exercise, assume Sale isn't the one saying no) 

(sarcasm intended) 

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11 minutes ago, Sleepy Harold said:

 

42 year old Rich Hill gets 8 million... Teach your kids to throw lefty people. 

15 minutes ago, SoxAce said:

42 year old Rich Hill gets 8 million... Teach your kids to throw lefty people. 

He had 1 good season before the age of 36. This contract will push his career earnings to $75 million. Good for him. Most would have given up.

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22 minutes ago, SoxAce said:

42 year old Rich Hill gets 8 million... Teach your kids to throw lefty people. 

Ain't that the truth.

17 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

Ain't that the truth.

What does the trade simulator say?

2 years $34 million with a vesting option and other performance incentives for Eovaldi. 

 

Some of these teams are so dumb, actually spending money on depth.  They clearly don’t trust their training staff.

The nerve of the Rangers to block Odorizzi and Dunning with better players.

2 hours ago, Tnetennba said:

 

Seems like a super reasonable deal

Murphy gets $72m/6 years from ATL. 

Am I wrong, or does that make the Grandal deal seem bloated AF?

Just now, Rusty_Kuntz said:

Murphy gets $72m/6 years from ATL. 

Am I wrong, or does that make the Grandal deal seem bloated AF?

One was a free agent and the other was controllable for 3 more years.

Just now, Bob Sacamano said:

One was a free agent and the other was controllable for 3 more years.

Exactly, Murphy is arb eligible for 3 years and will probably make $25 million for the next 3 years of arb. This is effectively a 3 year $50 million deal. Which isn't far off from what Grandal got. 

1 minute ago, Bob Sacamano said:

One was a free agent and the other was controllable for 3 more years.

Yep, thanks. 

Regardless holy hell has Atlanta been good at negotiations. Look at how they were able to lock up players vs Nats across the division. Yeesh.

2 hours ago, bmags said:

Regardless holy hell has Atlanta been good at negotiations. Look at how they were able to lock up players vs Nats across the division. Yeesh.

Atlanta and White Sox both have an amazing culture of early contracts that give generational wealth opportunities...but definitely benefits the teams' financial ledgers. Braves difference is that they are much more aggressive in getting the talent in whatever avenue best fixes the roster (Trades, FA overspends, Farm risks), while the Sox are much more conservative in their pursuits and more about just getting "deals" with what they have for JR cost certainty

1 minute ago, Sleepy Harold said:

 

The Red Sox do not look like a good team.

28 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said:

The Red Sox do not look like a good team.

So they've signed a couple of 2 year deals but nothing long term right? 

Looks like they're likely to be well under the tax so they avoid any multi-year penalties, they fill in holes and hope that Clevinger Kluber has a little left in him so that maybe they can make a run at the last wild card slot if things happen to go their way, but they avoid any multi-year deals that are likely to go bad in the end and their guys on short term deals are tradeable at the deadline to help them restock? Seems like a decent strategy to me if you're in the spot they were in - an older team, guys approaching FA, but not nearly enough depth to manage a legit contender. 

50 minutes ago, Balta1701 said:

So they've signed a couple of 2 year deals but nothing long term right? 

Looks like they're likely to be well under the tax so they avoid any multi-year penalties, they fill in holes and hope that Clevinger Kluber has a little left in him so that maybe they can make a run at the last wild card slot if things happen to go their way, but they avoid any multi-year deals that are likely to go bad in the end and their guys on short term deals are tradeable at the deadline to help them restock? Seems like a decent strategy to me if you're in the spot they were in - an older team, guys approaching FA, but not nearly enough depth to manage a legit contender. 

Letting Boegarts go for a draft pick wasn't good. JD Martinez gets you a lottery ticket at the deadline in 2022 wouldn't he? Looks like they have pissed off Devers. Trevor Story looks like a mistake. Verdugo looks mediocre. It isn't a good team, yet they spend cash on Jansen. It's reminding me of the 2009-2015 White Sox way.

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