Balta1701 Posted December 25, 2022 Share Posted December 25, 2022 29 minutes ago, Quin said: However, who says no: Devers / Sale for Montgomery / Colas / Popeye So the White Sox are taking on $50 million and paying the Luxury Tax? Jerry Reinsdorf. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted December 26, 2022 Share Posted December 26, 2022 1 hour ago, Sox72 said: Sale.  38 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: So the White Sox are taking on $50 million and paying the Luxury Tax? Jerry Reinsdorf. These are the answers I wanted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted December 26, 2022 Share Posted December 26, 2022 1 hour ago, Quin said: However, who says no: Devers / Sale for Montgomery / Colas / Popeye Trade the farm for Sale so he can be a part of two White Sox rebuilding fire sale trades when they inevitably pull the plug.  I like it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted December 26, 2022 Share Posted December 26, 2022 (edited) Sale for Moncada and Kopech Who says no? (for this exercise, assume Sale isn't the one saying no) (sarcasm intended) Edited December 26, 2022 by Jack Parkman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Harold Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 11 minutes ago, Sleepy Harold said:  42 year old Rich Hill gets 8 million... Teach your kids to throw lefty people. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 15 minutes ago, SoxAce said: 42 year old Rich Hill gets 8 million... Teach your kids to throw lefty people. He had 1 good season before the age of 36. This contract will push his career earnings to $75 million. Good for him. Most would have given up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 27, 2022 Author Share Posted December 27, 2022 22 minutes ago, SoxAce said: 42 year old Rich Hill gets 8 million... Teach your kids to throw lefty people. Ain't that the truth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerksticks Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 17 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Ain't that the truth. What does the trade simulator say? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjusttyped Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 2 years $34 million with a vesting option and other performance incentives for Eovaldi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 Some of these teams are so dumb, actually spending money on depth.  They clearly don’t trust their training staff. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snopek Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 The nerve of the Rangers to block Odorizzi and Dunning with better players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 2 hours ago, Tnetennba said: Â Seems like a super reasonable deal 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty_Kuntz Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 Murphy gets $72m/6 years from ATL. Am I wrong, or does that make the Grandal deal seem bloated AF? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 Just now, Rusty_Kuntz said: Murphy gets $72m/6 years from ATL. Am I wrong, or does that make the Grandal deal seem bloated AF? One was a free agent and the other was controllable for 3 more years. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 Just now, Bob Sacamano said: One was a free agent and the other was controllable for 3 more years. Exactly, Murphy is arb eligible for 3 years and will probably make $25 million for the next 3 years of arb. This is effectively a 3 year $50 million deal. Which isn't far off from what Grandal got. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty_Kuntz Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 1 minute ago, Bob Sacamano said: One was a free agent and the other was controllable for 3 more years. Yep, thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 Regardless holy hell has Atlanta been good at negotiations. Look at how they were able to lock up players vs Nats across the division. Yeesh. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EloyJenkins Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 2 hours ago, bmags said: Regardless holy hell has Atlanta been good at negotiations. Look at how they were able to lock up players vs Nats across the division. Yeesh. Atlanta and White Sox both have an amazing culture of early contracts that give generational wealth opportunities...but definitely benefits the teams' financial ledgers. Braves difference is that they are much more aggressive in getting the talent in whatever avenue best fixes the roster (Trades, FA overspends, Farm risks), while the Sox are much more conservative in their pursuits and more about just getting "deals" with what they have for JR cost certainty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Harold Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 1 minute ago, Sleepy Harold said: Â The Red Sox do not look like a good team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 28 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: The Red Sox do not look like a good team. So they've signed a couple of 2 year deals but nothing long term right? Looks like they're likely to be well under the tax so they avoid any multi-year penalties, they fill in holes and hope that Clevinger Kluber has a little left in him so that maybe they can make a run at the last wild card slot if things happen to go their way, but they avoid any multi-year deals that are likely to go bad in the end and their guys on short term deals are tradeable at the deadline to help them restock? Seems like a decent strategy to me if you're in the spot they were in - an older team, guys approaching FA, but not nearly enough depth to manage a legit contender. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 (edited) 50 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: So they've signed a couple of 2 year deals but nothing long term right? Looks like they're likely to be well under the tax so they avoid any multi-year penalties, they fill in holes and hope that Clevinger Kluber has a little left in him so that maybe they can make a run at the last wild card slot if things happen to go their way, but they avoid any multi-year deals that are likely to go bad in the end and their guys on short term deals are tradeable at the deadline to help them restock? Seems like a decent strategy to me if you're in the spot they were in - an older team, guys approaching FA, but not nearly enough depth to manage a legit contender. Letting Boegarts go for a draft pick wasn't good. JD Martinez gets you a lottery ticket at the deadline in 2022 wouldn't he? Looks like they have pissed off Devers. Trevor Story looks like a mistake. Verdugo looks mediocre. It isn't a good team, yet they spend cash on Jansen. It's reminding me of the 2009-2015 White Sox way. Edited December 28, 2022 by Dick Allen 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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