Just now, South Side Fireworks Man said:

Sox are buyers again!!!

Twins lose Twins lose lol.

7 1/2 gb

It's remarkably White Sox to win a game where your pitching gives up 16 hits, but not in any of the 8 times they've had 14+ K's.

Cease gets his team record setting 8th straight ND.

Edited July 8, 20232 yr by Autumn Dreamin

Teams With Most Blown Saves

The Chicago White Sox lead all teams with 18 blown saves:

Team	Blown Saves	Save Opportunities	Save Pct.
White Sox	18	34	47%
Twins	17	35	51%
Cardinals	17	37	54%
Orioles	17	43	60%
Rays	17	42	60%
Guardians	17	44	61%
Padres	16	37	57%

We be winners 

18 blown saves / 35 opportunities=48.6%

11 blown leads out of 18 leading directly to losses

1 minute ago, caulfield12 said:

18 blown saves / 35 opportunities=48.6%

11 blown leads out of 18 leading directly to losses

Do you think the results would have been better if Hendriks was with the team?

8 minutes ago, Autumn Dreamin said:

It's remarkably White Sox to win a game where your pitching gives up 16 hits, but not in any of the 8 times they've had 14+ K's.

Cease gets his team record setting 8th straight ND.

And it's quite un sox like to score more runs than their opponent in a game the opponent out hit them nearly 2 to 1.

18 minutes ago, chitownsportsfan said:

And it's quite un sox like to score more runs than their opponent in a game the opponent out hit them nearly 2 to 1.

You could have ended the sentence at the first “opponent.”  

Edited July 8, 20232 yr by JTB

3 hours ago, Heads22 said:

Was the umpire in the 2005 ALCS for the AJ dropped third strike, also behind the plate for the Rodon no hitter

Didn’t realize he was behind the plate for Rodon.  He was a youngster in the ‘05 game.  

24 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

Teams With Most Blown Saves

The Chicago White Sox lead all teams with 18 blown saves:

Team	Blown Saves	Save Opportunities	Save Pct.
White Sox	18	34	47%
Twins	17	35	51%
Cardinals	17	37	54%
Orioles	17	43	60%
Rays	17	42	60%
Guardians	17	44	61%
Padres	16	37	57%

The most expensive bullpen in baseball to boot! ? 

23 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

18 blown saves / 35 opportunities=48.6%

11 blown leads out of 18 leading directly to losses

Yep...11 times they took a lead into the 7th inning or later...and...lost...the...game. 

35 minutes ago, JTB said:

Didn’t realize he was behind the plate for Rodon.  He was a youngster in the ‘05 game.  

He also made a terrible call a few years after to give the Sox a win when he ruled interference on Tampa when AJP was involved 

Don’t give in to false hope. Lose the next 2

1 hour ago, WBWSF said:

Do you think the results would have been better if Hendriks was with the team?

They absolutely would have been far better. Everyone would "index" back one spot in the order. Graveman in the 8th, Kelly in the 7th (when he's going well), Santos/Middleton in the 6th (7th when Kelly starts to suck). Bummer and Lopez only pitching in "losing" situations. 

Were there any boos when we were down 5-0? Nice comeback win. Robert and Burger, what can u say? When they make contact, boom. Sox do have a handful of good players. What's with that, Pedro?

29 minutes ago, greg775 said:

Were there any boos when we were down 5-0? Nice comeback win. Robert and Burger, what can u say? When they make contact, boom. Sox do have a handful of good players. What's with that, Pedro?

A bullpen away from making Pedro look good.  Anyone following this thread knows it.  Exacerbated by lack of run production, of course.

2 hours ago, caulfield12 said:

Teams With Most Blown Saves

The Chicago White Sox lead all teams with 18 blown saves:

Team	Blown Saves	Save Opportunities	Save Pct.
White Sox	18	34	47%
Twins	17	35	51%
Cardinals	17	37	54%
Orioles	17	43	60%
Rays	17	42	60%
Guardians	17	44	61%
Padres	16	37	57%

Imagine the difference if Hendriks hadn't gotten sick. 

2 hours ago, caulfield12 said:

Teams With Most Blown Saves

The Chicago White Sox lead all teams with 18 blown saves:

Team	Blown Saves	Save Opportunities	Save Pct.
White Sox	18	34	47%
Twins	17	35	51%
Cardinals	17	37	54%
Orioles	17	43	60%
Rays	17	42	60%
Guardians	17	44	61%
Padres	16	37	57%

To be expected when your closer goes down first with cancer followed by standard White Sox injury management/ malpractice.

Hahn’s acquisitions since were Colome, Shaw and Touki since the cancer announcement. This is what GMs in a multi-championship contention window do when their closer goes down for more than half a season.

2 hours ago, Lip Man 1 said:

The most expensive bullpen in baseball to boot! ? 

With the most expensive piece missing a good portion of the year so far undergoing chemo treatment. 

3 hours ago, Buehrle>Wood said:

Sox were tired of him taken all these national assignments over them. Honestly don't blame them for that. And also like connor McKnight. He called some of the game on the radio and was thinking the same.

The radio team has been better since the end of the dual radio/tv Harry and Jimmy broadcasts. Always muted Hawk and Jason and kept the radio team on back when Sox games were televised over the air.

Len was a great addition, hope he remains in the radio after Benetti leaves over the next year or two.

3 hours ago, caulfield12 said:

Teams With Most Blown Saves

The Chicago White Sox lead all teams with 18 blown saves:

Team	Blown Saves	Save Opportunities	Save Pct.
White Sox	18	34	47%
Twins	17	35	51%
Cardinals	17	37	54%
Orioles	17	43	60%
Rays	17	42	60%
Guardians	17	44	61%
Padres	16	37	57%

A major reason for being 14 under.

2 hours ago, Stinky Stanky said:

A bullpen away from making Pedro look good.  Anyone following this thread knows it.  Exacerbated by lack of run production, of course.

Yes the Sox pitching staff is poorly constructed for modern baseball. Starters going 5 1/3 innings max doesn't work with a team with OK (sometimes) but mostly ineffective bullpen. And the lineup is also poorly constructed for modern baseball. Yes Sox have 3-4 guys productive with the HR ball but everybody else is an abject failure at launch angle including Timmy.

Why can't the Sox figure it out they have it all wrong. I hate openers but the way the Sox are constructed, they should be using 8-9 starters who go 2 innings max. Unless Sox can get starters who can go 7 like the old days, I'd prefer two innings apiece with 4-5 pitchers a game. Let Cease go 2 several times a week, ditto the other "openers."

Do u all agree with me the Sox are ill equipped for modern MLB and that's a huge concern?

5 hours ago, fathom said:

He also made a terrible call a few years after to give the Sox a win when he ruled interference on Tampa when AJP was involved 

That was way back in 2008, I was up in Chicago for a visit and saw that Sunday game.

10 hours ago, chitownsportsfan said:

And it's quite un sox like to score more runs than their opponent in a game the opponent out hit them nearly 2 to 1.

Cards only had one walk; Sox had 4, I believe, plus Sox did not bat in the 9th inning.  Other than that, your point is valid.

10 hours ago, Bob Sacamano said:

Don’t give in to false hope. Lose the next 2

Hahn is licking his chops at the possibilities a Sox sweep presents. 

Edited July 8, 20232 yr by ChiSox59