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Sox trade Andrew Vaughn to acquire Aaron Civale


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19 minutes ago, wegner said:

I know I have been wrong about quite a few players over the years, but I really am surprised how bad Vaughn was in the MLB.

It's seems exclusively to the White Sox.

2 things happen - they become useful to another team or they are out of baseball

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58 minutes ago, GreenSox said:

Give Elko  the rest of the season. The mix and match options will always be available. 
Rojas along with Slater et al should be DFAd in the near future (Slater today, really). 
 

Crapa or palacios go first

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39 minutes ago, Snopek said:

BREAKING: Aaron Civale requests trade from White Sox

Brewers: We are honoring your request and trading you to the White Sox.

Civale: Oh, I think you misheard what I said.  I said I wanted a FADE, as in a new haircut.  Sorry for any confusion!

Brewers: Too late.

Civale: I'll go to the bullpen and be good.  I won't complain at all.  I swear!

Brewers: Sorry, it's a done deal.

Civale: *stomps foot* I hate you!

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25 minutes ago, Buehrle>Wood said:

Considering we've drafted and developed one position player into an all star for us in the last 30 years, it certainly seems more exclusive to the White Sox.

This is exactly the point.

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6 minutes ago, champagne030 said:

For who?  Jerry?  It won't be spent on the team. 

As mentioned earlier, it was a trade for our s%*# for their s%*#.

Yeah but an experienced veteran starting pitcher is way better s%*# than a 1B who cant hit, field, or run.

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18 minutes ago, champagne030 said:

For who?  Jerry?  It won't be spent on the team. 

As mentioned earlier, it was a trade for our s%*# for their s%*#.

Getting a SP for the same salary is very good. 

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10 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

 

Maybe more emphasis on the community part? I guess he was also the most healthy from the last rebuild core. Not sure that’s worth a “thanks for everything you did for the team” though.

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1 hour ago, southsider2k5 said:

FIP of 5.53 could be scary coming here.

His last 180 IP haven't been great, but a lot of that is related to a change in pitch mix that hasn't worked and has been odd - hes moved away from his slider which was one of his best pitches and hes moved away from his curve which is his best pitch. He's become fastball heavy. 

The arm talent and strength is still there. 

 

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17 minutes ago, Capn12 said:

Gavin has put up more WAR in 60 games in SD, than he did in 435 games in Chicago. Maybe it isn't the player at fault, but the organization and their choices?

People will say this is hindsight but I was leaning more towards Sheets if they were only going to go with one going forward in the offseason, basically just because of the lefty bat.

However, I didn't really want to bring back either though, especially not Vaughn.

Edit: this isn't like an "I'm pissed they didn't keep Sheets" post. Because I also doubt he would be doing here what he's been doing in SD.

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35 minutes ago, tray said:

Sad day for Stoney and Tony.

I wonder if Stone Pony is still going to talk about how Vaughn is ready to break out at any moment.

That Osik dude was probably right and Vaughn is just a lazy ass that took his talent and career for granted.

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18 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said:

People will say this is hindsight but I was leaning more towards Sheets if they were only going to go with one going forward in the offseason, basically just because of the lefty bat. I didn't really want to bring back either though.

I don't know about pro-Sheets, but tendering a contract to Vaughn in the off season was stupid then, and it didn't work out any better in hindsight.

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