ptatc Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 11 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Are you "most"? Because it seems like you are here complaining. I rarely complain as I dont pretend to know the actual value of the prospects or what other teams have offered. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiderman Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 9 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: I've never heard of this pitcher, but I will have strong opinions on him within an hour. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 https://www.mlb.com/milb/prospects/yankees/gage-ziehl-695721 A Cubs 11th-round pick in 2021 as a New York high schooler, Ziehl put his pro career on hold to attend Miami. He led the Hurricanes in appearances as a freshman, then became their best starter during the next two seasons. The Yankees began the 2024 Draft by selecting college pitchers with each of their first seven picks and signed him for $637,000 as their fourth-rounder. Ziehl's ability to command his fastball stands out more than its velocity and life, as it operates at 92-94 mph and reaches 96 with modest ride and run. He misses more bats with a sweeping mid-80s slider that grades as a plus pitch with two-plane depth at its best. He imparts fade and sink on a mid-80s changeup but has difficulty keeping it in the zone. At 6 feet and 223 pounds, Ziehl is compact but strong and durable. He's a tough competitor who repeats his high three-quarters delivery with ease, enabling him to locate his fastball and slide with precision. The Yankees have a history of helping pitchers upgrade their stuff, and doing so with Ziehl would raise his current ceiling of a No. 4 starter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 10 minutes ago, ptatc said: I rarely complain as I dont pretend to know the actual value of the prospects or what other teams have offered. So you just make the effort to complain about the complainers preemptively? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 Beating the pre-emptive complaining about complaining... This seems about a fair return. Sure it isn't a positional return, but if the pitching offers are that much higher, we definitely still need pitching. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiderman Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 Appears to be a flyer like was expected. Maybe can compete for an end of rotation spot at some point. Never can have enough arms so I'm fine with adding a lower end prospect. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalChiSox Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 13 minutes ago, Sleepy Harold said: Pipeline #18 https://www.mlb.com/milb/prospects/yankees That's not bad at all. Surprised we got a top 20. From pipeline: https://www.mlb.com/milb/prospects/yankees/ 18 Gage Ziehl RHP, Hudson Valley Renegades, A+ Yankees Top 30 BioStatsNewsVideo AGE 22 BATS R DOB 05/15/2003 THROWS R HT 6' 0" DRAFTED 2024, 4th (119) - NYY WT 223 ETA 2027 Scouting grades: Fastball: 50 | Slider: 55 | Changeup: 50 | Control: 55 | Overall: 40 A Cubs 11th-round pick in 2021 as a New York high schooler, Ziehl put his pro career on hold to attend Miami. He led the Hurricanes in appearances as a freshman, then became their best starter during the next two seasons. The Yankees began the 2024 Draft by selecting college pitchers with each of their first seven picks and signed him for $637,000 as their fourth-rounder. Ziehl's ability to command his fastball stands out more than its velocity and life, as it operates at 92-94 mph and reaches 96 with modest ride and run. He misses more bats with a sweeping mid-80s slider that grades as a plus pitch with two-plane depth at its best. He imparts fade and sink on a mid-80s changeup but has difficulty keeping it in the zone. At 6 feet and 223 pounds, Ziehl is compact but strong and durable. He's a tough competitor who repeats his high three-quarters delivery with ease, enabling him to locate his fastball and slide with precision. The Yankees have a history of helping pitchers upgrade their stuff, and doing so with Ziehl would raise his current ceiling of a No. 4 starter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 At least I don't have to figure out who Austin Slater is now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 9 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Beating the pre-emptive complaining about complaining... This seems about a fair return. Sure it isn't a positional return, but if the pitching offers are that much higher, we definitely still need pitching. I don’t have a problem with return, will say I have never enjoyed trading with Yankees. They tend to be very good at self scouting and keeping who is worth a damn 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 9 minutes ago, spiderman said: Appears to be a flyer like was expected. Maybe can compete for an end of rotation spot at some point. Never can have enough arms so I'm fine with adding a lower end prospect. Yep, sounds like a back end rotation starter at best. Better than a 26 year old bullpen arm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUSTgottaBELIEVE Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 I like it. Never expected anything for Slater anyways Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 Wow this is a great return for him. 4th rounder last year - nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 4th round pick from last year for Slater? Nice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 (edited) BA writeup. Quote 18. Gage Ziehl -RHP Ht: 6'0" | Wt: 212 | B-T: R-R Age: 22 BA Grade: 45/High Track Record: Ziehl is a native New Yorker whose career at Penfield High earned him a selection by the Cubs in the 2021 draft. Instead, he landed at Miami, spent his freshman season as a reliever and then was a part of the Hurricanes’ rotation for his final two collegiate years. The Yankees drafted him in the fourth round in 2024 and signed him for a slightly over-slot bonus of $637,000. He did not pitch after signing. Scouting Report: Ziehl is a thick-bodied righthander with a powerful trio of pitches. His four-seam fastball sits around 93 mph but can reach up to 97 mph. It is backed mostly by a short, sweepy slider in the mid 80s. He has an excellent feel for the slider and threw it for strikes nearly 70% of the time during his final season in Coral Gables. To combat lefthanders, Ziehl employs a mid-80s changeup with solid fading action. He is a polished strike-thrower who mixes, matches and methodically pounds the zone. He walked just 6.3% of hitters in his draft year. The Future: Ziehl was part of a seven-pitcher run the Yankees used to start the draft. Like the rest of the group, he is big, physical and has the stuff to overpower hitters. Teams in recent years have struck gold by taking pitchers off of Miami’s staff. The Yankees hope Ziehl is the latest Hurricane to take the sport by storm. Scouting Grades: Fastball: 50 | Slider: 55 | Changeup: 45 | Control: 55. Edited July 30 by DirtySox 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 Not a bad return for a guy not going to be here next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R U Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 You get a 22 year old SP prospect for a dumpster dive signing, A+ in my book. I would have figured he was more likely to be DFA'd than used to get a pitching prospect if I was betting before the season started. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogan873 Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 Maybe better return than it could have been. Not sure where this guy would slot in the Sox system, but maybe not as high as 18th as he is in the Yankees'. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capn12 Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 I'll take a 22 year old arm in exchange for an OFer we never wanted. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 And just thinking outloud without seeing the kid, this reads like a Cannon/Burke/Davis type of guy with mid to back rotation stuff and go out there every 5 days and give you six OK innings on a typical basis. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 (edited) I assume “Danger” Will Robertson replaces Slater on the roster? Edited July 30 by WhiteSox2023 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snopek Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 9 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: I assume Will Robertson replaces Slater on the roster? Yep, Fegan just said he is with the team already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 10 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: I assume “Danger” Will Robertson replaces Slater on the roster? He is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 I'd say this is a pretty above average return for a platoon bat rental. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 Zeal for Ziehl 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogan873 Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 Yankees fans are not happy. Not so much about who was sent to the Sox but about Slater. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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