Bigsoxhurt35 Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 I want hitters. We've shown the ability to draft and develop pitching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jul 23, 2015 -> 09:01 PM) I mean, out of all the things we need, pitching isnt my first choice. Our offensive and defensive games are horrific. I honestly believe Sale/Q/Fulmer/Rodon is a good enough core in 2 years to be a serious contender. Q is headed South IMO. Just look at his record. He is a mediocre big league starter, which is why he won't get much in a trade. Rodon still walks too many, too often behind in the count....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 QUOTE (oldsox @ Jul 24, 2015 -> 06:46 AM) Q is headed South IMO. Just look at his record. He is a mediocre big league starter, which is why he won't get much in a trade. Rodon still walks too many, too often behind in the count....... Â ...Quintana has been a top 20 pitcher the past two years with some or the worst run support imaginable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lasttriptotulsa Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 QUOTE (oldsox @ Jul 24, 2015 -> 06:46 AM) Q is headed South IMO. Just look at his record. He is a mediocre big league starter, which is why he won't get much in a trade. Rodon still walks too many, too often behind in the count....... Â That right there basically tells me that you have no idea what you are talking about. His FIP this year is 3.25. 18% better than league average. In all 9 of his losses the team has scored 0 or 1 runs. In 7 of those Quintana gave up 3 or less runs. It's not his fault that the Sox play horrible defense and have one of the worst offenses in the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 QUOTE (oldsox @ Jul 24, 2015 -> 06:46 AM) Q is headed South IMO. Just look at his record. He is a mediocre big league starter, which is why he won't get much in a trade. Rodon still walks too many, too often behind in the count....... Lol, you really need expand your knowledge base and look beyond statistics like wins/losses, batting average, & RBIs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 QUOTE (oldsox @ Jul 24, 2015 -> 06:46 AM) Q is headed South IMO. Just look at his record. He is a mediocre big league starter, which is why he won't get much in a trade. Rodon still walks too many, too often behind in the count....... Mediocre? Lmao he's been great for us he's just had the worst luck and no run support. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 Luck and clutch don't exist in sabremetrics. They're just random variations that return to mean eventually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sox Fan In Husker Land Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (Bigsoxhurt35 @ Jul 23, 2015 -> 09:56 PM) He's also had a plus 4 ERA like all year. I like him he's just not been as advertised. Now he's 3.91 due to his hot streak lately. I would t be opposed to signing him in the offseason I've just been frustrated with him. Â In his last 8 starts he has pitched fairly well. 60 IP, 47 H, 11 BB, 45 K, 17 ER, 2.55 ERA, 0.97 WHIP, 4.09 K:BB, 6.75 K/9. He is currently 19th in WAR among pitchers on Fangraphs for the season. He has also gone at least 7 innings in 12 of his last 13 starts. If we can't get a good prospect in return for him, I see no reason to trade him. Just take the compensation pick at the end of the 1st round to go with our Top 10 pick. Â Here are your pitchers ahead of Samardzija in WAR, only 4 on that list besides him that are available. Â Max Scherzer Clayton Kershaw Corey Kluber Chris Sale Dallas Keuchel Zack Greinke Jake Arrieta David Price Chris Archer Jacob deGrom Sonny Gray Clay Buchholz Gerrit Cole Michael Pineda Lance Lynn Carlos Carrasco Tyson Ross Johnny Cueto Jeff Samardzija Edited July 24, 2015 by Sox Fan In Husker Land Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogan873 Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 QUOTE (oldsox @ Jul 24, 2015 -> 06:46 AM) Q is headed South IMO. Just look at his record. He is a mediocre big league starter, which is why he won't get much in a trade. Rodon still walks too many, too often behind in the count....... Quintana has gotten no run support this season. His ERA is a good 3.83. You can't look at his 4-9 record and say he's no good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (Sox Fan In Husker Land @ Jul 24, 2015 -> 05:43 AM) In his last 8 starts he has pitched fairly well. 60 IP, 47 H, 11 BB, 45 K, 17 ER, 2.55 ERA, 0.97 WHIP, 4.09 K:BB, 6.75 K/9. He is currently 19th in WAR among pitchers on Fangraphs for the season. He has also gone at least 7 innings in 12 of his last 13 starts. If we can't get a good prospect in return for him, I see no reason to trade him. Just take the compensation pick at the end of the 1st round to go with our Top 10 pick.  Here are your pitchers ahead of Samardzija in WAR, only 2 on that list besides him that are available.  Max Scherzer Clayton Kershaw Corey Kluber Chris Sale Dallas Keuchel Zack Greinke Jake Arrieta David Price Chris Archer Jacob deGrom Sonny Gray Clay Buchholz Gerrit Cole Michael Pineda Lance Lynn Carlos Carrasco Tyson Ross Johnny Cueto Jeff Samardzija  Caarlos Carrasco is supposedly available also.Probably Ross also. I'm pretty sure I've read all Padre starters are . Edited July 24, 2015 by CaliSoxFanViaSWside Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox_Sonix Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 QUOTE (oldsox @ Jul 24, 2015 -> 07:46 AM) Q is headed South IMO. Just look at his record. He is a mediocre big league starter, which is why he won't get much in a trade. Rodon still walks too many, too often behind in the count....... Â Â Quintana is the most underappreciated and underrated SP in baseball. He would be the best pitcher on maybe a third of the teams in the league. Using his W-L record to come up with the idea that he is on the decline (as a 4 year vet, at age 26) is one of the most ridiculous things I've heard on this site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 QUOTE (oldsox @ Jul 24, 2015 -> 06:46 AM) Q is headed South IMO. Just look at his record. He is a mediocre big league starter, which is why he won't get much in a trade. Rodon still walks too many, too often behind in the count....... Â Educate yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 24, 2015 Author Share Posted July 24, 2015 QUOTE (oldsox @ Jul 24, 2015 -> 06:46 AM) Q is headed South IMO. Just look at his record. He is a mediocre big league starter, which is why he won't get much in a trade. Rodon still walks too many, too often behind in the count....... Â Hawk called. He wants his stats back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 24, 2015 -> 02:20 PM) Hawk called. He wants his stats back. Â niceeee..... Â you knnow, you have been on a streak with your great humor.......keep it up. i really enjoy it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 QUOTE (oldsox @ Jul 24, 2015 -> 06:46 AM) Q is headed South IMO. Just look at his record. He is a mediocre big league starter, which is why he won't get much in a trade. Â lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Bump just because... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Q headed south is the biggest facepalm moment of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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