bmags Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 At the least I think Trayce will be a great 4th OF. Great defense and power, good base running. I really think regardless he'll have an MLB career popping around teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Dec 10, 2015 -> 11:45 PM) I agree. Montas, Thompson, and Micah for Frazier? Too little? Too much? If they would do that, I'll drive the 3 to Cincy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Dec 10, 2015 -> 05:45 PM) I agree. Montas, Thompson, and Micah for Frazier? Too little? Too much? If I was them, too little. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 (edited) Is this a surprise? He plays great D, hit nearly .900 OPS. of course teams would want him....it's just people around here and the Sox org. has this thing about "proven veterans". It's nuts. much prefer him than waste him as part of a package for Todd Frazier and his home-stilted stats, including a mighty .660 the 2nd half of last season. Or, sell high (for once!) and trade Eaton for a hitter and put Trayce in center. Or keep Eaton and put Trayce there anyway How people don't want to give this guy a chance is beyond belief. Edited December 10, 2015 by GreenSox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted December 11, 2015 Author Share Posted December 11, 2015 QUOTE (GreenSox @ Dec 10, 2015 -> 05:56 PM) Get rid of him. Fourth outfielder. Package him up for 2 years of the elite Todd Frazier and his .660 home stilted OPS. Or, sell high (for once!) and trade Eaton for a hitter and put Trayce in center. Or keep Eaton and put Trayce there anyway How people don't want to give this guy a chance is beyond belief. If one month of success of Trayce Thompson who hasn't had real minor league success can land a 4 WAR player in Todd Frazier, then yes you did it every single time. Yet, you wanna trade our proven lead off guy, for a guy with 100 at bats. When you mention is 660 2nd half OPS, you always forget the full body of work that he's had the last 4 seasons, just to fit your narrative. Just stop it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 His brother is Klay Thompson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 Get rid of him. Fourth outfielder. Why doesn't anyone want to give him a chance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 QUOTE (GreenSox @ Dec 10, 2015 -> 05:56 PM) Is this a surprise? He plays great D, hit nearly .900 OPS. of course teams would want him....it's just people around here and the Sox org. has this thing about "proven veterans". It's nuts. much prefer him than waste him as part of a package for Todd Frazier and his home-stilted stats, including a mighty .660 the 2nd half of last season. Or, sell high (for once!) and trade Eaton for a hitter and put Trayce in center. Or keep Eaton and put Trayce there anyway How people don't want to give this guy a chance is beyond belief. So much so that the GM just said he told Adam Eaton he might get moved to LF for Thompson. Oh wait. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconOnAStick Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 Should probably take it as a sign to keep him when he's one of the few players on this garbage roster other teams are interested in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFutureIsNear Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 I have a feeling Trayce is the new Brian Anderson. Just going to keep hearing about that defense and how he just needs a chance... I'd be more than happy to admit I'm wrong though. If Trayce can figure out how to stick as a (decent) major league hitter it would be a huge boost for the franchise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalSox Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 QUOTE (TheFutureIsNear @ Dec 10, 2015 -> 05:25 PM) I have a feeling Trayce is the new Brian Anderson. Just going to keep hearing about that defense and how he just needs a chance... I'd be more than happy to admit I'm wrong though. If Trayce can figure out how to stick as a (decent) major league hitter it would be a huge boost for the franchise. That's an extremely unfair comparison for Thompson. He had 122 at bats, had a slash line of .295/.366/.533/.896 w/ 5 HRs and great defense. Let's give him a real chance & see what he has. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 QUOTE (SoCalSox @ Dec 10, 2015 -> 05:33 PM) That's an extremely unfair comparison for Thompson. He had 122 at bats, had a slash line of .295/.366/.533/.896 w/ 5 HRs and great defense. Let's give him a real chance & see what he has. I agree. Give him a legit shot to be the opening day CF'er . He looked like a major leaguer when he batted , not necessarily because of the success, but because he looked very comfortable in the box and seemed to have a good eye. Jose Iglesias of the Tigers had pretty "meh" minor league stats and he's hit pretty well in the majors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalSox Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Dec 10, 2015 -> 05:45 PM) I agree. Give him a legit shot to be the opening day CF'er . He looked like a major leaguer when he batted , not necessarily because of the success, but because he looked very comfortable in the box and seemed to have a good eye. Jose Iglesias of the Tigers had pretty "meh" minor league stats and he's hit pretty well in the majors. Exactly. Some players react different at different levels. He looked like a major leaguer & a pretty good one at that. I could be completely wrong but to label him Brian Anderson is just rough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanne Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 QUOTE (SoCalSox @ Dec 10, 2015 -> 08:33 PM) That's an extremely unfair comparison for Thompson. He had 122 at bats, had a slash line of .295/.366/.533/.896 w/ 5 HRs and great defense. Let's give him a real chance & see what he has. this. this team is so devoid of talent....and you want to trade a home grown one?!? Geezus. Nobody's going to "trade high" on him. He's one of those guys you steal...not trade high with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 QUOTE (Alexeihyeess @ Dec 10, 2015 -> 05:11 PM) Wait the Sox have a crowded OF? Who's crowding it? All the negative WAR bums? lol. touche. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 QUOTE (Alexeihyeess @ Dec 10, 2015 -> 08:16 PM) Should probably take it as a sign to keep him when he's one of the few players on this garbage roster other teams are interested in. you are winning the Internet tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 I'm with you guys. Would like to see what Thompson can do playing everyday and see if his bat progresses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 QUOTE (LDF @ Dec 10, 2015 -> 04:41 PM) just a long shot here,but can this be an idea of the sox making plans for a new of"er to come in?? Nope. Sox FO is not smart enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 How many wins does Lawrie add? One? How many wins would Frazier add with a big year? 4 or 5? That gets us to .500, people. Big whoop. This needs to be a year for development. See what we have. Sure we can trade Trayce....but no one is going to give us a premium price for him precisely because he doesn't have the minor league pedigree. Had he torn it up in the minors AND had a month like this, he'd be a top 10 prospect. We may have a gem. We may not. But I doubt he's dud. See what we have in Sanchez as well. And Micah. Let Saladino fill whatever we need. See how the A ball talent (which looks strong) develps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 QUOTE (oldsox @ Dec 10, 2015 -> 09:30 PM) Nope. Sox FO is not smart enough. LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFutureIsNear Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 QUOTE (SoCalSox @ Dec 10, 2015 -> 08:33 PM) That's an extremely unfair comparison for Thompson. He had 122 at bats, had a slash line of .295/.366/.533/.896 w/ 5 HRs and great defense. Let's give him a real chance & see what he has. I apologize for being realistic about the situation. Any reasonable person can actually look at Trayce's numbers with an unbiased eye and realize his chances of being a stater aren't great. It's not my opinion, it's statistics. The Anderson comparison is unfair I admit, but I was speaking more in terms of hype than play on the field. I think Trayce will definitely find a home on our team and shouldn't be traded at all...I just think that his home is as a defensive replacement/spot starter. Going into the season with him as a starter and no replacement plan besides Avi/Shuck would be a big mistake in my opinion. Unless we aren't spending $ for a playoff push.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (TheFutureIsNear @ Dec 11, 2015 -> 04:29 AM) I apologize for being realistic about the situation. Any reasonable person can actually look at Trayce's numbers with an unbiased eye and realize his chances of being a stater aren't great. It's not my opinion, it's statistics. The Anderson comparison is unfair I admit, but I was speaking more in terms of hype than play on the field. I think Trayce will definitely find a home on our team and shouldn't be traded at all...I just think that his home is as a defensive replacement/spot starter. Going into the season with him as a starter and no replacement plan besides Avi/Shuck would be a big mistake in my opinion. Unless we aren't spending $ for a playoff push.... pssst that is why i think avi will be sent to the minors. but don't let elrockinMT know i said that. Edited December 11, 2015 by LDF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beautox Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 QUOTE (TheFutureIsNear @ Dec 10, 2015 -> 09:29 PM) I apologize for being realistic about the situation. Any reasonable person can actually look at Trayce's numbers with an unbiased eye and realize his chances of being a stater aren't great. It's not my opinion, it's statistics. The Anderson comparison is unfair I admit, but I was speaking more in terms of hype than play on the field. I think Trayce will definitely find a home on our team and shouldn't be traded at all...I just think that his home is as a defensive replacement/spot starter. Going into the season with him as a starter and no replacement plan besides Avi/Shuck would be a big mistake in my opinion. Unless we aren't spending $ for a playoff push.... You can't cite the word statistics and then not apply the law of independent trials with regards to prospects. Trayce came into this organization at a time when they we're just changing their draft philosophy from low ceiling moderate floor players to the converse. In '09 he was a second round pick behind us taking Jared Mitchell and at that time around here and the rest of the internet both of those picks were lauded for changing the game up, in revisionist history the sox and 28 other teams should've drafted Trout but oh well. I've said it before, projection systems have a real hard time dealing with prospects and their breakouts and foreign born professionals. You can site TT's meidiocre minor league performance and thats fair but in doing so you also have to realize that sometimes players with said results come to the majors and some reason break out, and its more apparent in toolsy athletic types than any other. Randal Grichuk, Brandon Crawford & Jose Iglesias are three great recent examples. Also If you want a historical context to dream on with regards to Sanchez, imagine this player and the amount of s*** people and projection system would say about him. thats their age 22-25 seasons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconOnAStick Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 Some guys just play their best in the majors. There's no reason for it and there's no way to project it. Trayce could very well be one of those players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (GreenSox @ Dec 10, 2015 -> 08:47 PM) How many wins does Lawrie add? One? How many wins would Frazier add with a big year? 4 or 5? That gets us to .500, people. Big whoop. This needs to be a year for development. See what we have. Sure we can trade Trayce....but no one is going to give us a premium price for him precisely because he doesn't have the minor league pedigree. Had he torn it up in the minors AND had a month like this, he'd be a top 10 prospect. We may have a gem. We may not. But I doubt he's dud. See what we have in Sanchez as well. And Micah. Let Saladino fill whatever we need. See how the A ball talent (which looks strong) develps. It still can be a year of development with Lawrie trade. He's young and we didn't give up much to worry about. Fact is we had an older Mike Olt as the likely starter. Granted, I doubt we're done yet. Edited December 11, 2015 by soxfan2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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