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One thing to consider is that Joc is absolutely useless vs. lefties. You have to platoon him, whereas Calhoun's splits are much more balanced. That being said, Joc is a much better hitter.

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Just now, chw42 said:

One thing to consider is that Joc is absolutely useless vs. lefties. You have to platoon him, whereas Calhoun's splits are much more balanced. That being said, Joc is a much better hitter.

I'd be perfectly content to play Leury with a dash of Engel on the weak side of a platoon. 

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4 minutes ago, chw42 said:

One thing to consider is that Joc is absolutely useless vs. lefties. You have to platoon him, whereas Calhoun's splits are much more balanced. That being said, Joc is a much better hitter.

He just mashes RH pitching though.. And what percentage of pitching is RH?  70%?

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1 minute ago, cjgalloway said:

He just mashes RH pitching though.. And what percentage of pitching is RH?  70%?

Especially in our division.

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Joc is a pretty low risk as well.  He's a platoon bat with 1 year before FA.  He shouldn't cost anything major and he's going to be worth around 3 WAR.

You get into the Hanigers and Nimmos etc, they are going to cost much better prospects and have real injury/downside issues. 

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2 minutes ago, cjgalloway said:

I believe he is in the same tier as a Marcel Osuna.  4 year-50 million?  Does that sound resonable for Joc?

For extending his contract after next year?

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2 minutes ago, BackDoorBreach said:

Joc is a pretty low risk as well.  He's a platoon bat with 1 year before FA.  He shouldn't cost anything major and he's going to be worth around 3 WAR.

You get into the Hanigers and Nimmos etc, they are going to cost much better prospects and have real injury/downside issues. 

I’d rather have Joc than Calhoun, but not by a gigantic amount since each would only be in one year deals. 
 

hypothetically we add Grandal, Joc/Calhoun, Encarnacion, we will have added a ton of pop to our lineup and also retained future financial flexibility. Sprinkle in Wheeler plus a solid backend starter and a pen arm and we are cooking in 2020.

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14 minutes ago, mqr said:

You'll never get me to buy the NL players = bad thing. Adam Laroche was a bad move when it happened. Adam Dunn was old. Frazier was actually mostly fine. 

It ain't 1975.

I’ll never understand what the logic is behind “NL players will struggle in the AL”.

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Just now, Balta1701 said:

the recent white sox Dh signings. 

That is a White Sox problem, not an AL vs NL one. 

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3 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

I’ll never understand what the logic is behind “NL players will struggle in the AL”.

Because we all remember Dunn and Larouch... BUT apart from them I can't specifically think of anyone else.

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3 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

I’ll never understand what the logic is behind “NL players will struggle in the AL”.

Not all do. But the ones the White Sox select seem to struggle a lot .

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1 minute ago, Dick Allen said:

Not all do. But the ones the White Sox select seem to struggle a lot .

Most of the players the White Sox select struggle a lot. Regardless of where they came from. 

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1 hour ago, Dick Allen said:

I guess Bob Nightengale is full of shit unless he writes something fans like.

To be fair, he called Harper to the Phillies from the start last year. 

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1 hour ago, DirtySox said:

I'm down for one year of Joc. Buys another year for one of the OF prospects to emerge.

Unless one of them is in the trade for him like Fulmer and Basabe for Joc.

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2 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

Unless one of them is in the trade for him like Fulmer and Basabe for Joc.

Be shocked if one of them wasn’t included 

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Well if renting a player off of 73 wins was debacle and massive failure in 2014, it takes a special baseball mind like that of Rick Hahn to repeat the failed practice in 2019 coming off of 72 wins.

Pass big time on 1 year rents.

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Gonzalez would be another obvious choice...as the highest hopes remain for Adolfo, Walker and hanging on to Rutherford one more year seems prudent since his trade value is already depressed.

That said, not sure why the Dodgers would want either of those two outfielders.  

Perhaps Buehler has convinced them he sees something in his former Vandy teammate that’s fixable.

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4 minutes ago, GreenSox said:

Well if renting a player off of 73 wins was debacle and massive failure in 2014, it takes a special baseball mind like that of Rick Hahn to repeat the failed practice in 2019 coming off of 72 wins.

Pass big time on 1 year rents.

I partially agree, but there are very different circumstances surrounding the similar win totals. 

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12 minutes ago, GreenSox said:

Well if renting a player off of 73 wins was debacle and massive failure in 2014, it takes a special baseball mind like that of Rick Hahn to repeat the failed practice in 2019 coming off of 72 wins.

Pass big time on 1 year rents.

Holding onto all your prospects until they reach the point of no value is far more stupid.

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2 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

Holding onto all your prospects until they reach the point of no value is far more stupid.

The problem there is having "all your prospects reach the point of no value". That's, um, not supposed to happen.

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