bmags 5,268 Posted November 24, 2020 Should be a ton of relief help but not a ton of closers. And we have Bummer. What do you guys think? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chicago White Sox 5,465 Posted November 24, 2020 I mean, if Colome only goes for 1/$6M then why not? But at typical rates, I’d prioritize other needs first and add a Kela type reliever to the mix. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
southsider2k5 5,708 Posted November 24, 2020 Bummer CAN close, but I would MUCH rather have him available anywhere between the 6th and 9th. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eminor3rd 762 Posted November 24, 2020 My opinion is you pack the bullpen with upside arms and let a closer emerge. Too much risk of injury and inconsistency to go into the season needing to rely on one guy. If the options was available, I would choose "Budget Closer x3." 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CaliSoxFanViaSWside 2,056 Posted November 24, 2020 I think we got some great years from Colome but the natural progression is Bummer to closer but I do think another good relief arm would be prudent. If that's Colome and he is still the closer I'm good with that. If he falters there's still Bummer to use as closer. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bmags 5,268 Posted November 24, 2020 6 minutes ago, Eminor3rd said: My opinion is you pack the bullpen with upside arms and let a closer emerge. Too much risk of injury and inconsistency to go into the season needing to rely on one guy. If the options was available, I would choose "Budget Closer x3." I feel like those dudes want a shot though. Sox bullpen could be tough to crack into. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Harold's Leg Lift 1,044 Posted November 24, 2020 You don't want Kela on this team. That's a bad dude. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eminor3rd 762 Posted November 24, 2020 22 minutes ago, bmags said: I feel like those dudes want a shot though. Sox bullpen could be tough to crack into. Some will, certainly, but I'd bet that the combination of a broader acceptance of the "modern bullpen" and the uncertainty of the COVID version of free agency will make a bunch of guys happy just to have a solid guarantee. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fathom 5,469 Posted November 24, 2020 1 minute ago, Harold's Leg Lift said: You don't want Kela on this team. That's a bad dude. Yep, seems to be hated by his teammates Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tnetennba 1,443 Posted November 24, 2020 Sign a closer/re-sign Colome, unleash Bummer wherever needed. This pen is a big big weapon with proven closer at the back end. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CWSpalehoseCWS 529 Posted November 24, 2020 I'd love to see Hendricks brought in, but I doubt the Sox would dare go in that direction. RF and SP are much bigger and more important needs. Though I do have faith in Bummer, Heuer, or Foster being able to handle that role in a worst case scenario. Heuer and Foster have had some closing experience in the minors before. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chicago White Sox 5,465 Posted November 24, 2020 In this market, there is zero excuse for not bringing in a quality reliever in on a short-term deal. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KillahPriest 13 Posted November 24, 2020 Re-sign Colome 1/8 with an option and Hand 2/18. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Balta1701 2,879 Posted November 24, 2020 Make sure you think about the coach in this context. Is this coach going to take your best reliever and limit him to only the 9th inning? Would he automatically prefer a veteran closer in the 9th and be more willing to use Bummer in high leverage spots if he had one? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
South Sider 300 Posted November 24, 2020 7 hours ago, KillahPriest said: Re-sign Colome 1/8 with an option and Hand 2/18. You absolutely do this if Colome can be had for that cheap. He may not overpower you, but he's got stones and a closers mentality. With him being a primary cutter pitcher, does he remind anyone of a Mariano Rivera Ultra Light? Or Light? I am 100% okay with that kind of production. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YourWhatHurts 307 Posted November 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, South Sider said: You absolutely do this if Colome can be had for that cheap. He may not overpower you, but he's got stones and a closers mentality. With him being a primary cutter pitcher, does he remind anyone of a Mariano Rivera Ultra Light? Or Light? I am 100% okay with that kind of production. Colome has always been greatly underappreciated here. He's never going to be a big K guy but if we have an IF defense we're fine with him. The only complaint I have is that he takes so damn long to throw the ball, but other than that? Show me all of these closers that have 1-2-3 9ths all of the time. Usually there's some trouble. Usually, every inning for just about any pitcher of any kind there's trouble, it's just that it becomes more of a fan focus if it's the 9th inning. In baseball, just about everyone has a WHIP above 1.0. Everybody is allowing more than 1 baserunner per inning. I like that Colome does a pretty good job of making quality pitches. He's trying to be enticing but not leave cookies in the middle of the plate. Sometimes hitters lay off and the break isn't as sharp and he falls behind. But he has a pair, and I want a closer with a pair. I think he's a lot like David Robertson in that respect, not necessarily the best closer but he's got closer's stones. OTOH I never thought Kimbrel had any stones even with the stuff he had. I'd always rather have a guy out there who will put the ball in the strikezone. And because he's a pitch-to-contact guy, Colome just needs the hitter to swing at one of his pitches and put it in play. He doesn't have to have a minimum of 3 pitches to record an out. I'd bring him back for sure but I think we're probably going to wait Springer out before we do anything. After Springer signs, I would not at all be shocked to immediately see the Sox agree to terms with a RP, including potentially Colome. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YourWhatHurts 307 Posted November 24, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, South Sider said: You absolutely do this if Colome can be had for that cheap. He may not overpower you, but he's got stones and a closers mentality. With him being a primary cutter pitcher, does he remind anyone of a Mariano Rivera Ultra Light? Or Light? I am 100% okay with that kind of production. Whoa we posted 1 min apart both talking about Colome's stones. Lol never mind. I was tricked by my browser. I actually just quoted you again. Edited November 24, 2020 by YourWhatHurts Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bmags 5,268 Posted November 24, 2020 I worry about Colome's shoulder. There was a fegan article way back when about how much he has to do to prep his shoulder for the season. I don't know if that should be taken as "this is what it takes to perform at my age in the top league in the world" or that he has a ticking time bomb of a shoulder (moreso than any pitcher I guess). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YourWhatHurts 307 Posted November 24, 2020 1 minute ago, bmags said: I worry about Colome's shoulder. There was a fegan article way back when about how much he has to do to prep his shoulder for the season. I don't know if that should be taken as "this is what it takes to perform at my age in the top league in the world" or that he has a ticking time bomb of a shoulder (moreso than any pitcher I guess). I don't think he gets more than a 1 year deal with a team option on it anyway. IMO there's really no reason to worry about anyone on a deal like that. Anyone can get hurt at any time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bmags 5,268 Posted November 24, 2020 1 minute ago, YourWhatHurts said: I don't think he gets more than a 1 year deal with a team option on it anyway. IMO there's really no reason to worry about anyone on a deal like that. Anyone can get hurt at any time. But I'm not worried about optimal contracts, I am looking for getting a good year out of players because we are a playoff team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2Deep 191 Posted November 24, 2020 I would like to have Colome back. He has done everything possible to gain my trust. Man has balls! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YourWhatHurts 307 Posted November 24, 2020 10 minutes ago, bmags said: But I'm not worried about optimal contracts, I am looking for getting a good year out of players because we are a playoff team. Sure but you're still talking about RPs though. I think anyone we sign or trade for, in one season especially, could go bad. Look at Edwin Diaz's first season on the Mets, etc. As a closer I'd take Colome over Brad Hand 10 times out of 10 though, as an example. I think we can get Raisel Iglesias in a trade, Hader too, if we want to pay those prices. Iglesias should be much cheaper, but a FA costs no prospects. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RagahRagah 418 Posted November 24, 2020 Colome made us nervous quite a bit but always got the job done. No reason not to seek him for one more year. Bummer will be there for whatever role we will need him for. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChiSoxJon 257 Posted November 24, 2020 8 hours ago, KillahPriest said: Re-sign Colome 1/8 with an option and Hand 2/18. Wow that would be filth 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChiSoxJon 257 Posted November 24, 2020 All for bringing back Colome for fair value...Hand would be an unbelievable add So excited for this team Share this post Link to post Share on other sites