Bob Sacamano Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jan 30, 2016 -> 06:43 PM) Only the Mets, maybe. But the Sox should predict that and should have signed Price or Greinke. Cardinals as well as they experience it every year and still do well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jan 30, 2016 -> 05:17 PM) Depending how badly the Dodgers want to get rid of Ethier before he becomes a 5/10 guy, maybe they would take LaRoche since they still would be saving some money and either trade or release him. Makes sense to me. Too easy, tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Zelig Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Jan 29, 2016 -> 11:46 AM) Is any team loaded enough to survive a top 3 starting pitcher missing all/most of the season? Wainwright pitched 28 innings last year and St. Louis won 100 games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 I think I read somewhere that every major league team either averaged using eight starting pitchers...or actually had a minimum of using eight different starters over the course of the 2015 season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCCWS Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jan 31, 2016 -> 02:46 PM) I think I read somewhere that every major league team either averaged using eight starting pitchers...or actually had a minimum of using eight different starters over the course of the 2015 season. 8 seems high but I think it is fair to say we can expect the White Sox to need a 6th starter this year since one of our 5 will go down w some injury ( and /or Johnson or Danks will struggle). I thought they would add someone but they must be confident they have enough depth internally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 QUOTE (SCCWS @ Jan 31, 2016 -> 09:02 PM) 8 seems high but I think it is fair to say we can expect the White Sox to need a 6th starter this year since one of our 5 will go down w some injury ( and /or Johnson or Danks will struggle). I thought they would add someone but they must be confident they have enough depth internally. nice post, this is what i am thinking, it is not that i have no faith in the pitching core, but there is some serious question marks i have. the top 3 will carry this team. enuf said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (SCCWS @ Jan 31, 2016 -> 03:02 PM) 8 seems high but I think it is fair to say we can expect the White Sox to need a 6th starter this year since one of our 5 will go down w some injury ( and /or Johnson or Danks will struggle). I thought they would add someone but they must be confident they have enough depth internally. 8 sounds about right. Teams always have guys coming up to make random starts. Not looking at numbers I'd guess that we used about 9 or 10 (Sale Quintana Samardzija Danks Noesi Rodon Carroll Beck Johnson Montas are my guesses). Edited January 31, 2016 by soxfan2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 The Chicago White Sox, who have been rumored to have interest in Fowler, would be a perfect fit for Ethier Trades have been the ideal method of improvement for the White Sox this offseason. Even with the loss of multiple prospects in separate deals to acquire Todd Frazier and Brett Lawrie, there are still enough bullets in the chamber to get Ethier. The price on the Dodgers outfielder won't be high and on top of that the team would have to pay part of his salary to facilitate a deal. http://www.digitaljournal.com/sports/op-ed.../article/455987 Nothing really new, just more speculation. I do wonder how serious the Dodgers are in moving Ethier. Not much being said about it outside of sports writer's speculating. I know the Dodgers like depth but good grief how many outfielders do they need, lol? Just tell the Dodgers we'll take on all of Ethier's contract if they include Thompson in a package for Avi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glangon Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jan 31, 2016 -> 07:46 PM) I think I read somewhere that every major league team either averaged using eight starting pitchers...or actually had a minimum of using eight different starters over the course of the 2015 season. We used 9 over the course of the season. We used Sale, Danks, Q, Rodon, Shark, Noesi, EJ, Montas and Beck. Admittedly Montas and EJ were used as September call ups and Noesi was released because he was garbage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 QUOTE (glangon @ Feb 1, 2016 -> 05:24 AM) We used 9 over the course of the season. We used Sale, Danks, Q, Rodon, Shark, Noesi, EJ, Montas and Beck. Admittedly Montas and EJ were used as September call ups and Noesi was released because he was garbage. The 2005 White Sox used 6 which was the fewest any team had used in many years. Just a spot start here or even a minor injury there adds up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glangon Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Feb 1, 2016 -> 11:48 AM) The 2005 White Sox used 6 which was the fewest any team had used in many years. Just a spot start here or even a minor injury there adds up. Beck was a spot start. Montas was a spot start and part of the September call-ups. Noesi was released and replaced by Rodon. Sale had a minor injury but we went to a 4 man rotation due to the schedule. I suspect if we were in contention, you probably wouldn't have seen EJ starting in September (unless there was an injury or double header) That would have still meant 8 pitchers which I suspect was less than most teams out there, see Dodgers, Blue Jays and Yankees for examples. I thought that apart from Sale at the start, our rotation was relatively injury-free and it was scheduling issues due to rain-outs and the Baltimore riots which caused more chaos to our rotation than injuries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 QUOTE (glangon @ Feb 1, 2016 -> 07:45 AM) Beck was a spot start. Montas was a spot start and part of the September call-ups. Noesi was released and replaced by Rodon. Sale had a minor injury but we went to a 4 man rotation due to the schedule. I suspect if we were in contention, you probably wouldn't have seen EJ starting in September (unless there was an injury or double header) That would have still meant 8 pitchers which I suspect was less than most teams out there, see Dodgers, Blue Jays and Yankees for examples. I thought that apart from Sale at the start, our rotation was relatively injury-free and it was scheduling issues due to rain-outs and the Baltimore riots which caused more chaos to our rotation than injuries. You still can't bank on using only using 5-6 guys throughout a 162-game season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glangon Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Feb 1, 2016 -> 02:08 PM) You still can't bank on using only using 5-6 guys throughout a 162-game season. Agreed That is why he's brought in Turner. He has Carroll who has started before, Beck who had a spot start last year, Danish who is on the fringes and Fullmer who he is looking to get some experience in Spring Training. I'm not worried about our rotation, I'm more worried about our outfield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Dye Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 Phil RogersVerified account @philgrogers Not clear if there's a match but #WhiteSox are exploring #Dodgers Andre Ethier. His 2.7 WAR in '15 would be 4th best in their lineup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 Well it's definitely not going to happen now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Dye Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 he unleashes tomahawk abandon on righties Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shysocks Posted February 1, 2016 Author Share Posted February 1, 2016 QUOTE (Jose Paniagua @ Feb 1, 2016 -> 11:08 AM) he unleashes tomahawk abandon on righties Yup. That's what he's really, really good at it. Glad it's being, ahem, "explored." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 Rogers mentioned Carl Crawford too who the Dodgers are trying to get rid of. He was actually pretty decent in 2014 and 2013. His 2015 campaign dropped off on offense. Both of them arent good on defense and free agents in 2018. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 I'd be fine with Ethier. Means Melky would likely stay in left for 2 full years, though. I'd imagine we'd move Ethier to DH after LaRoche. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 QUOTE (Jose Paniagua @ Feb 1, 2016 -> 11:04 AM) Phil RogersVerified account @philgrogers Not clear if there's a match but #WhiteSox are exploring #Dodgers Andre Ethier. His 2.7 WAR in '15 would be 4th best in their lineup. If Phil is reporting it, we might as well close this thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 What Rogers says makes sense and has been speculated all off season so he's really not reporting anything new. Until some rumors come out with regards to how much money the Dodgers are willing to eat for Ethier, I'll take this with a grain of salt. As for Crawford, good luck Dodgers, lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 1, 2016 -> 11:50 AM) If Phil is reporting it, we might as well close this thread. The last time Rogers was right about something, the Sox got Kevin Youkilis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 QUOTE (Jose Paniagua @ Feb 1, 2016 -> 12:04 PM) Phil RogersVerified account @philgrogers Not clear if there's a match but #WhiteSox are exploring #Dodgers Andre Ethier. His 2.7 WAR in '15 would be 4th best in their lineup. Welp, that's another possible OF upgrade off the table. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vance Law Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 QUOTE (bmags @ Feb 1, 2016 -> 09:24 AM) I'd be fine with Ethier. Means Melky would likely stay in left for 2 full years, though. I'd imagine we'd move Ethier to DH after LaRoche. You'd move Melky to DH. He's a worse defender and has at least a little AL experience playing DH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 1, 2016 -> 11:50 AM) If Phil is reporting it, we might as well close this thread. Don't mind at all. Not a fan of Ethier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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