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Zavala is playing winter ball in Venezuela after a strong close to his AA season (.316/.522/.557 in August and September)

I think Getz mentioned something along these lines with his season ending press conference.

Thanks, just a grwat name. Britt Burns i think started the first sox game i went to in 1982 or so, so I dig yours too.

LOVE your avatar! One of the best on this forum!

He had a higher k rate in A+ than in AA.

His velocity decreased quite a bit and he dropped his arm angle. I don't know if the injury was causing that or if they were tinkering and he got injured along the way.

Yeah if he was hurt, it at least explains why he was throwing up meatballs and gives me hope that if he can get healthy, he can improve. Still don't really like the move though.

Has this been reported anywhere or are people speculating?

my bad, yeah that was what I saw, the team Ks, I'm pissed that Cleveland got him literally right after we picked colson

This is the (5 yr) $75 million dollar question.

5 IP, 9 K. Maybe you were looking at the Guardians team total of 13 K? But still, you’re right that the dude is an absolute monster and a problem. He’s always had massive talent but struggled with inconsistency. Sure seems like he’s put it all together.

We've already lived through the more contact approach in 2021 and 2022. It didn't work for us. I don't think there's anything inherently wrong with the offensive approach we have as a team, people are just overreacting to a historically bad 3 game sample. There's also not much coaching and approach can do when you have 2 guys who just swing and miss a lot in Colson and Mune. That's more or less a talent issue. Coaching can help them mitigate that here or there, but they can't make contact for them.

I'm hyped for Bonemer but he strikes out a ton, I believe his K rate spiked in AA too, I believe it was over 25%.

Yes, My answer is yes. I think if you always took surplus value to surplus value- I think prospects will win out in most trades. I think trading is always optimizing windows for a team like the White Sox. However, Right Handed power is the most valuable asset in baseball. Bonemer could be monster. Maybe he leads up to 2-3 world series appearances over the next decade. I like to compare this years White Sox to last years Bears. I had little expectation going in but it was exceeded and the final outcome however disappointing was a great ride. Additionally, My expectations for next year have increased. I want a division title and at least a trip to the ALCS.

All Getz knew was the Royals... And they were the best franchise in baseball for 2-3 years. They made it to 2 WS in a row...and were the last mid to small market team to win, at least according to MLB. They also had great drafts and winning minor league teams leading into that. So it's fair to say he took 2 of the 5 most important front office members with him, and consulted with Dayton Moore and Yost as well. However most baseball fans treat the Royals as a "loser organization" ... and that was their rep for 30+ years after Brett. There was also a time we joked about recycling old Royals players like Mark Teahen or the 3B who wiped out TA or coaches that never went away like Buddy Bell. The truth is somewhere in the middle. Getz hasn't reinvented baseball. He's simply trying to apply those 2014-15 Royals' lessons but has the complete opposite team in terms of personnel...as GRF is a homer friendly park and less reliant on OF defense/speed/base running. He built a team around its bullpen (see KC having the best pen in history) ... but offensive contact ability, fundamentals/execution, speed, aggressive baserunning, manufacturing runs...not exactly what the Sox are good at it. Not at all. And now he's stuck in between because Mune and Colson don't fit that model he's trying to build, only Vargas does. (Remember, Mune just fell into Boyer's lap, was never a part of the plan until 29 teams rejected him first.) But somewhere along the way those players finally developed an identity and bonded together as one largely unselfish unit due to Venable's calm guidance and honestly overachieved. So in the end Getz is neither a miracle worker nor the worst GM...but it all doesn't matter unless JR is willing to reinvest in the team again like 2019-2021.

edit: misread the box score, 5.0 IP, 9 Ks, 2 H, 1 BB

And the Yankees won two vs the BoSox before getting swept by TB

Idk if I'm ready to give them the excuse that they performed awfully because "they kept trying to hit homers", maybe I thought that early on but watching those at bats again, they just looked completely incapable of hitting high velocity so then I went and listened to SoxMachine's interview on Foul Territory and found out that the Sox are one of the worst FB hitting teams in baseball when the velo is 96+ (they rank 30 of 30 in K% on 96+ FB, and 30 of 30 in batting avg vs 96+, at .205) and that validates my current belief: they can't hit good fastballs, the location doesn't even matter all that much. whether it's approach related, or their game prep, only the Sox know that

I agree. But it's just my impression that they tend to retain their personnel. Which may also be a key.

Sounds like my wife.

Couldn't have been more wrong about TB Miami and Orlando, at least so far...

Personally I'd hire every up and coming baseball person I could from organizations like the Rays, Brewers, Guardians, Braves. Those franchises have figured out how to win and be very competitive on a yearly basis it seems.

He didn't leave the scene though he remained as part of the front office according to the Sox media guides, now he did step back and stop speaking for the organization to the media.

I remember when JR and Einhorn bought the White Sox. Einhorn said numerous times that the White Sox were really owned by the City of Chicago and White Sox fans. He said he was just the placeholder for the team. Einhorn was the one who wanted to move the team to Florida. He wanted out of here. He said Florida was the greatest opportunity for MLB since the Dodgers moved to the west coast. After the White Sox agreed to stay in Chicago Einhorn sold most of his White Sox shares to JR and he left the scene.