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You're irritable because they aren't winning but you're so damn far into "wins" that you're missing the entire point. The best teams in baseball are because of a direct result of once upon a time building up their farm, whether it's those prospects impacting THEIR team (Astros, Cubs, Dodgers), those prospects helping their team RECEIVE great vets (Yankees), or a combination (Red Sox, Indians). You have let this crap blind you to the point that you said that the Sox are currently not developing any pitchers. I mean, are you serious?

I logged onto soxtalk for the first time in what seems like years just to come on here and figure out why the heck Adam Engel is a starting Major League Baseball player... what the heck

that was no ordinary outage it was the EMP blast from that Nuke off his bat.

I'm a prime example of post counts virtually being irrelevant.

Having “trust” and “complete confidence” in a management team with the horrible record this one has is foolish and unwarranted. What Sox fans can have is “hope” they finally get this thing right.

I fucking hate when people say this. Is it too much to ask to have a similar quality of life and career prospects as our parents did? It seems so. Apparently if your entire life does not revolve around your career you're lazy. Apparently having a work-life balance is being "entitled" as well. Ask anyone who has done that the price they paid in their personal life. Not to mention debt slavery in the form of student loans. The entire economic system has turned into a predatory one. There is no give and take anymore. All give by the majority and all take by the economic elites. All of the things that literally "Made America Great" were the result of borderline socialist policies by FDR and Truman, combined with the capitalist ideas of upward mobility. Nobody wants to talk about that though. For an economy to work properly, we need a healthy balance of socialist policies and capitalist policies. Going full stop one way or the other isn't going to work. Step #1 is destroying the cartels that control all of the distribution of goods and services in the US. Regional companies were a thing because it promoted a healthier economy.

13 days, 6 hours, and 37 minutes.

I mean when someone loses command and velocity of their fastball like this it's usually an arm issue. Not always of course some guys just lose their stuff and command at the same time but more often then not you see a drop off like this and the next thing you know he's on the DL

Did somebody close down 90 Miles Cafe last night?

This roster is comically bad right now. Probably only 7-8 legit major leaguers on it. Oh well, go Yoan and Timmy.

I think he was safe. I thought for sure Sox would review it

Turns out there are not that many surprises in baseball. I do like how ND works the count.

I am half tempted to rename this thread "Fantastic Exit Velocity and Where to Find it."

Palka to HOF

The Yo-Yo attack at the top of the lineup is working.

I don't understand the overwhelming love for Madrigal at all. That would be a really underwhelming pick. They can't take him unless they think he can play SS. He has a 60 hit tool, walks a ton and can run. He's 5'7 with 30 grade power though. I also don't think the Sox move a guy who might be the face of their team and a perennial All Star caliber player to another position to accommodate him.

I think I'm all aboard the Madrigal train.

Ptown 12:35 If Swaggerty went 2nd, and Madrigal 3rd, would the White Sox target Bohm or Kelenic? Eric A Longenhagen 12:36 If Bohm is on the board I think PHI takes him. I think CHW takes the college hitter who is left for them.

Or Madrigal. I'm really starting to favor him. I'm a proponent of BPA, but I keep coming back to "where does he fit exactly?" How do we convert him to catcher?

Just copy and paste the tweet from the twitter page (like copy the link to the actual tweet) and than just hit paste in the post section. Once you hit paste, wait about a second or two and the link will automatically turn into an embedded tweet. Once that happens, just hit post/reply.

Kopech looking very sharp so far. He just walked his first hitter in the 3rd, but he got really squeezed on a pitch that looked very much in the zone to make it 3-1, and then the next pitch he pulled outside. I think he was frustrated with the Ball 3 call. Got the next hitter to pop up to end the inning. 3 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 3 K

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I like this idea with Trayce. He's not the future, but he appears to be a much more serviceable player than whatever Engel is.

QUOTE (BrianAnderson @ Apr 18, 2018 -> 02:18 PM) My list of possible 4 OF with positives and negatives of each. Hopefully we have Avi, Robert and Eloy out there and the final spot goes to someone who can play all 3 spots decently and provide speed and defense with some hope as a bat. aka - some power, some speed, some walks I am assuming their age and role in 2019 and 2020 as that's when it'll matter. Now? It really doesn't. By 2021 one of these guys should be a 4OF (likely it might not be any of these guys) Cordell - 26 years old currently. 27 and 28 respectively. Played AAA for first time as 25 year old. 11th round pick. Held his own at each level in the minors, decent speed, decent getting on base, not sure on defense. However he's played in the PCL league and this year in Charlotte. Both are good for offensive numbers. I see him as a Band-Aid. Charlie Tilson - 25 years old currently Split seasons at A and A+ and then A+ and AA for his first two season at age 20 and 21 reaching a full season at AA at 22 and then AAA at 23. He's stole 46 bags in AA in 2015. Hit basically .282 and above each year, with the .282 coming in his first year at AAA. OBP decent. Played full seasons each year minus last year. Off to a cold start this year. Trayce Thompson - 27 years old currently (hypothetically) Bounced a round a bit over the past few years as we are aware. Batted nearly .300 with the CWS at age 24 getting on base at nearly a .363OBP. He was traded to the Dodgers and hit .225 over 260 AB's playing good efense and hitting 13 homers. Down in AAA at 26yo he hit .212 over 370AB's. Didn't really hit many homers or walk or slug either. Really tough year. He has proven himself on a somewhat limited basis what he probably tops out at in the MLB. With consistent AB's you can probably pencil in .240BA and some power, probably a bit worse with spotty AB's. Decent defense and can cover all positions. However would be 28 and 29yo respectively when he's called to do 4 OF duty Leury Garcia - 27 years old currently He's had a taste of the majors since 22 years old in 2013, but with his first real extended look coming last year with 326 AB's hitting .270 and 9HR. His last real minor league experience was 2016 when he crushed the ball .313BA and OBP .367. no real power, and is what I'd call replacement level at OF defense. Engel - 27? years old currently I think we all know what he is. Strong D and speed. Very poor everything else. The field: Rutherford - 20 years old In Single A right now. Had a rough year against expectations last year. Even with a truly execptional year in 2018 would guess by 2020 he's still in the minors. Say he finishes in AA this year. Starts in AA, makes it to AAA midseason in 2019. Seems unlikely that even happens. If it does were probably looking at him as an actual starter. Otherwise I'd guess 2021 as a year he'd come up as 4OF. Robert - 20 years old Doubtful he'll be up either in 2020. I can see him taking the meteoric route. But that puts him in the OF as a toolsy OF in 2020. Adolfo - 21 years old currently Probably still at least 2-3 years away. Basabe - 21 years old Great defense. Toolsy. Not a great year last year. Strong start this year. Based on defense might be the type of guy who works his way to the MLB level quickly as a 4OF. if you want him to be apart of the true future OF then I think he needs 2-3 more years of seasoning with the bat in the minors. Long winded post, but my order of who I think has the brightest future 2018-2021 as the fringe 3/4OF while we await Robert. Meaning the guy who should be manning the 3rd OF spot and then slot to 4OF when Robert comes up. Tilson (current-2021) Basabe (pushing for job in 2020-2021) Cordell (pushing for job second half of 2018 and into the future - think job should go to Tilson first) Leury (holding down the job now, but should be pushed by Tilson) Rutherford (Ideally ready by 2021 at which point he should replace Tilson or Basabe) I think that Engel, Jacob May and Thompson shouldn't be considered at all now or in the future. I've got some bad news for you about Cordell