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Why is this reason for a thread? It's being discussed at length in the scandal thread and it's not exactly breaking news. Brosious' kid said it like 2-3 days ago.

Soxtalk can really suck. You get a little excited about something you read...you post it and then the howling negatives come out of the woodwork to tell you how wrong and stupid you are. Ok Vaughn isnt Bellinger...hes Frank Thomas 2.0. Better? .300 hitter with 30+ homers and 100 walks hitting in a lineup with 4 other superstars. Im gonna go dream somewhere else.

This was over 30 years ago. Statute of limitations is up. C'mon Black Jack. Seems a guy is trying to make himself relevant again, and I am no fan of LaRussa. But this is ridiculous.

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/mlb/news/jack-mcdowell-80s-white-sox-tony-la-russa-cheated/fac8vh3ph8vb1dkja2jox1n10 Former MLB pitcher and 1993 AL Cy Young winner Jack McDowell alleged in a radio appearance Friday morning that the White Sox had an illegal sign-stealing operation at old Comiskey Park in the late 1980s, and that Hall of Fame manager Tony La Russa was the instigator of the scheme. Speaking to WFNZ-AM in Charlotte, where he serves as baseball coach for Queens University, McDowell said the White Sox had a camera zoomed in on opposing catchers and a light in an outfield Gatorade sign that could be controlled from the manager's office and would presumably let hitters know which pitches were coming. "He was also the head of the first team ... with people doing steroids," McDowell said, referencing La Russa's decade-long stint as manager of the Oakland A's, which included managing infamous steroid users Jose Canseco and Mark McGwire. "Yet he's still in the game making half a million. No one's gonna go after that." I've been pretty anti-LaRussa in my life, and as a poster here, and his love of cheating was a huge reason. He was an overrated hack who never did shit the right way; which is likely why he was fired from the White Sox. People here can praise him all he want, but the guy spent decades cheating - not winning fair and square.

Oh for fuck sake...this is what they wrote... Highest Ceiling: Vaughn Not only is Vaughn the best all-around hitter among first-base prospects, he's also on the short list of the best all-around hitters in the Minors. He could produce a .300 batting average, 30 homers and 80 walks on an annual basis. and let me be clear that would be absolutely nothing like Cody Bellinger, of the Dodgers, or Clay Bellinger of the Yankees, or minor leaguer Cole Bellinger or Orioles shortstop Mark Belanger in any way. Any similarities by Vaughn to actual persons, living or dead, is purely coincidental.

Oh, OK Rob.

If you are going to be a solid bench player you better be multi positional and hit righties good considering most pitchers are righties, Rather have a lefty who plays multiple positions like Holt or Gennett. If Madrigal struggles at all a LH PH and a guy who can sub for long stretches is better. Baseball is ideal for LHH , get as many as you can.

Have you checked his stats since he was 30 ? Not impressive. There's not many if any teams he could start for now . Most of the FA's left are fighting for table scraps now, I'm not buying the fit either, I'd rather have Brad Miller, Holt or Flores if they are going to still get an infielder. Gennett too if his medicals check out. He put up a career year in 2018 then followed it up with a disaster of a 2019 mostly due to injury. But I'd also be fine with Mendick.

Dozier makes some sense for the Sox, but I’m not sure the Sox make sense for Dozier. He has a solid track record, why would he want to go to a team where he would be a bench player after April? You’d think he’d want to start somewhere so he could try to cash in again next offseason.

Lol Micah. Clevenger liked that one.

He’ll need to steer clear of our LF.

Good interview with Kevan Smith http://files.triblive.com/podcasts/sportstalk/Ksmithpodcast.mp3

Slander

I'm not giving up Madrigal and Vaughn.

I think we should exhume old comiskey and get to the bottom of this.

I would prefer to focus on baseball rather than beat this 30+ year old dead horse. This is Houston's problem....let's not make it ours.

What would that accomplish?

The waivers are a common thing in all sports. Waivers are only granted if it is proven that the athlete has a significant deficit in HGH. The amount they are allowed to take is strictly regulated to bring the levels up to a normal range. Thus if true, which it appears it is not, he would not be gaining any advantage over anyone. So I wouldnt have an issue with it because it would be medically necessary not used for performance gains.

Saquon Barkley repped 225 lbs 29 times as a 21 year old weighing 225 lbs. "Yeah, he's natty" - said nobody who's ever been a serious weight lifter.

Speculation presented as speculation is not met with derision. Speculation presented as fact is rightly met with derision.

I think most of this is right -- but the fact that you take the (defensible) premise of "there are systems in place that prevent us from proving the use of PEDs" as evidence that "most players are using PEDs and I know who they are" is the crux of the issue.

He's generally a moron

Now we know where the Cardinals pixie dust comes from. Turning mediocre players into productive major leaguers for them.

Moncada was better than half of those guys last year