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White Sox undefeated in hypothetical future innings that never happened. Hooray for that omniscience?

1. How did it work out for Harry? Well after he rejected Jerry Reinsdorf’s offer to announce for his pathetic pay per view scheme which collapsed as an utter failure, Harry made more money, increased his audience by turning a former 50/50 Sox/Cubs town into a 70/30 Cubs/Sox town, and became a national icon. Jerry Reinsdorf, a pariah and architect of a completely dysfunctional mess in two organizations. 2. There are no reports of Yermin carrying a criminal record. You know who is a recidivist criminal, someone no parent should want their child emulating? Your guy Tony. 3. Tony also did not make up steroids, but like the Olympic Games, both have benefited from a steady dose of steroids for decades.“Sportsmanship”

The only good thing to come out of this game was Vaughn getting a shot of confidence taking out Chapman.

Including a picture says all you need about where his head is at. Doesn’t matter that he persevered long after most guys would have given up and is now excelling at the highest level - a truly great story. All that matters is he looks like the bad man from his television programs.

Real contending outfield we have out there

Ironically, a child like that resorts to the posting style you do. Like calling someone "sprinkles." Why do that? Because your logic and reasoning can't do all the talking. You're a troll. Off to ignore list you go. Because unlike you, I don't need someone else's attention. "Sprinkles." Never seen a forum where so many trolls are endowed with moderation responsibilities. Like having arsonists guard gas cans. Ironic that a forum that hates Trump so much functions much like a Trump controlled White House.

Vaughn should be in the minors. Vaughn missed a year of minor league development. Have you ever worked somewhere and had an employee that was improperly trained but had a good ability for the job? Im sure they made mistakes and it took them longer to catch on. Baseball is a business and Vaughn is an under trained employee. He is doing all the right things for the White Sox and his ability to take over LF and perform at an adequate level has been terrific. The bat will catch up.

Does anyone other than me think all these crazy comments and complaints criticizing LaRussa and the gloom and doom panic fueled comments are just getting ridiculous?

LOL

It was obviously to anyone (other than JR) that he lost the team when he did that. He needs to go. It was awful when they brought him in and it is somehow 10000000 times worse than any of us could have ever imagined. Only a complete fucking idiot would take the wind out the sails of his own team they way he did. It shows on the field and it's only going to get worse.

Hey how bout that. You don't need a bunt to move the runner over. How about letting your players STEAL! Novel concept.

Tony's boys don't quit!

Huh. Vaughn was the only option there. Even benetti knew it before the inning. He had passed over Vaughn countless times in that spot this year. At least he finally learned his lesson. Wonder if we could have won a couple more games now if he went Vaughn over leury/Hamilton earlier

It's clear as day that the AL East is big boy baseball. The Sox would be a 500 team if they had to rumble in that division.

Seems like a lot of contradictory thinking around here, almost like buyer's remorse. "Be positive! We have arguably the best team is baseball!" Then it shifts to: "Be positive! We can still EASILY win this division! Just keep beating up on shitty AL Central teams! Look at our run differential!" Weird. Almost like a total forfeit of the prior model of thinking. Sorry, I'm not happy just aiming for a Division win when I know our division SUCKS.

So much irony and karma to the Sox being unable to score after Tony’s bs

And which already banned him...

Pal, you managed to describe yourself on 1 sentence and for that I commend you. And Kenwo is a larussa stan and hates on players. I dont see many people here doing either of those things.

lol you are out of touch - if you think issues in sportsmanship today are about anything you posted - just stay in your house. Reality would devastate you.

Tony is the greatest bullpen manager of all time. I trust him.

Hunch lol? How was it even a tough decision

Larussa with the great pitch hit call there with Vaughn!

Just turned on the game the pitch AV hit it out. You're welcome

When Codi Heuer actually starts and finishes an inning, he's very good. It's coming out for a 2nd inning that he struggles badly with.

I really think Tony has no idea Leury is a better RH hitter.

Agree 100%. The needle has now moved to just compete for a division with a team that has the lowest payroll in baseball and consistently trades away all star level players. I thought the goal of the rebuild was to finally be a franchise that could swim in the deep end with the big boys?

We will be fine, especially when everyone is healthy. The problem is they caught us in the middle of a cold steak.

Lol...hard to complain about the outcome there, but still an insane decision to me.

Oh look, Marshall in another high leverage situation. Tony needs to be fired ASAP.

Don’t be so negative. Engel has worked real hard on his hitting

Adam Engel is a darn good player and when he gets back it will make this team better

Not with the five bigger name 3B piled up in front of him. Urshela (thankfully not with CLE any longer), Chapman, Jose Ramirez, Donaldson, Bregman, etc, Certainly not with just three homers at a traditional power spot.

I sat down today knowing things could take a turn quickly, plus I've got a million things on the to-do list. After that 1st inning...seemed like a good idea to start tackling them.

$18 million + for a starter that misses no bats. $18 million + for a catcher who sucks. $13 million + for a closer you barely use. Rick Hahn SUCKS

At this point, may as well try it. He’ll be back. I’m in full support of finding a way to get him off mlb roster for 3 weeks at some point. He’s not hitting at all right now, so seems like a good time.

You must have a sadly pathetic life then to waste all your free time policing a forum you hate

Bold prediction of the day: Billy boy pulls one out to the short porch.

Vaughn will be back in Triple A once Eloy, Robert are back. Vaughn has potential though.

Because we think an outfield containing Billy Hamilton and Jake Lamb is bad and don't expect Engel to be a savior?

I mean what’s to contribute. It’s essentially a room full of kenwos who are never happy and are literally the embodiment of everything wrong with sox fans.

When you refer to Adam Engel as a savior in a sentence - stop and ponder for a bit (hint - the outfield might not be too good)

What do y’all expect until Engel gets back. Jesus bunch of babies

Yeah, it’s a character flaw that apparent. You can age and still adapt to the times. I was hoping for senior citizen Bruce Bochy because I respect his knowledge and experience, but also his ability to keep up with the world around him.

1st bold: Tony might not have "started it it" as you so pointed out like a 3 year old, but he was the gas can to the flame. If he let's this go publicly, no one ever talks about it again. But he had to make an example of him, multiple times in public, so here we are. Tony as a manager of over 5000 games absolutely knows what happens when you talk to the press. In fact one could easily argue he wanted this to happen. 2nd bold, great hint at wanting to see violence done at someone with cerebral palsy. Apparently ageism is bad, but handicapped guys getting theirs for having an opinion contra to the great TLR is cool. 3rd bold. Every player you mentioned was old and white. Did you even notice that? 4th bold. What do gold chains have to do with sportsmanship and respect for unwritten rules? What do they have to do about anything in the game? Why is this so important to you? Of all of the recent instances of actual bad sportsmanship that we have seen recently why is this and gold chains the two this seems to bother you the most, and why does it seem to be broader Latin player tropes which keep creeping into your posts instead of actual material matters? Why is it such a poor example to kids to wear gold chains?

And Canseco. Old school managers like LaRussa, Showalter, Scioscia, etc., are a dying breed in baseball especially. You can get away with that Belichick or Saban stuff in football, as long as you win. Basketball, the same transformation is happening. Players don’t want the coach from the movie Hoosiers (Norman Dale) or Bobby Knight. They want someone who is fun to play for, understands the modern athlete and lets them be themselves. In that sense, Renteria was more than adequate. The Carlton Fisks and Madison Bumgarners are disappearing...replaced by another generation with more forward thinking, incorporating analytics, fitness/nutrition and sports psychologist. Just like teachers can’t use the same lessons on the projector from the 1980’s with today’s kids that are much more visual and have lesser attention spans...if you can’t compromise and meet them halfway, to be willing to change and adapt your style or approach, you’re dead. Players will tune you out...and old school punishments rather than incentives/rewards will be met with increasing resistance across the clubhouse until you lose the team entirely.

Taking steroids and cheating is fine as long as you don’t swing 3-0. Young players juicing to be the next McGwire is fine, as long as they don’t wear gold chains. How is this buffoon still posting here?

Luis Robert was named the 7th most irreplaceable player in MLB based on his proJected fWAR, and the Grand Canyon sized gap between Luis and his pathetic replacements. Not sure how you can argue Leury Garcia or Billy Hamilton are not 0 WAR players. The gap is not as large with Eloy, since he is the worst defensive LF in MLB, so outside of perhaps Jake Lamb, you get a LF defensive upgrade. Also, the drop off is not as wide in offense with Vaughn as the drop off in CF.

He didn't start anything. Yermin did and those who dislike/hate LaRussa have prolonged it ad nauseum. Plenty of ageism mixed in with outrageous accusations that Tony is suffering from Dementia. Nice. Jason Benetti continues to rub salt into the wound and continues his off handed and often unjustified criticisms of LaRussa. He may want to check to see how that kind of schtick worked out for Harry Carey after Reinsdorf purchased the White Sox. Maybe Benetti should bring his opinion about LaRussa as Manger into the open instead of playing games with it. Unwritten rules may be different elsewhere around the league but for the White Sox, Tony has made it clear that players have to obey take signs and directions from their Manager. Tony sets the rules for the players as long as he is Manager and has the support of the Owner. He does. End of discussion. Mercedes will obey signs and directions and if he shows up late for another game, there will be additional fines or punishment. I know Ronnie Kittle as I am sure some of you do. As a rookie in '83, he would never have even considered disobeying a sign and showboating. Ask him if you want to verify that. And ask Fisk or Hawk while you are at it. I bet they would agree with Ron. Oh well maybe way back in '83, that was old school - follow directions from your Manager, show up for games on time. keep the gold necklaces inside your jersey, and maintain some degree of humility , especially as a rookie. Pro athlete should set an example for young kids who play the game. Sportsmanship isn't a rule, but it has been a thing for a few thousand years.

Oh, jeez. First off, what question, exactly? That the Sox are the 5th best team in the AL? Not sure what that really even means. Second, you merely said things were "bad takes." You didn't explain why they are bad. As people tend to. If I'm anywhere near in the vicinity of things you want explained (you didn't quite clarify)... The Sox have great starting pitching but that alone does not win championships anymore, they play great against sub .500 teams but so far we have no idea if they can even beat any actual good teams as they have yet to do so, our bullpen as it turns out is overall ass right now, etc. Is that enough to answer whatever it is you are even asking? Saying the Sox are "*insert number here* best team in the AL" ultimately doesn't mean anything unless they can beat actual top talent and you know it. If I'm not satisfying your inquisitivity then please clarify what info you are actually seeking instead of your usual childish, condescending shtick. Not that I believe you are actually looking to be enlightened on anything. Maybe try civilly asking for an inquiry rather than always act snide? Would that hurt you?

Well, I guess this is goodbye for you then.