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It’s amazing to me that Jerry is about to throw out a roster with a payroll of around 50M and we are getting lectured by tray about the dangers of Private Equity Firms like they aren’t already all over professional sports. OH NO I DONT WANT THE SOX TO BE LIKE THE DODGERS! let’s all keep wishing the perfect multibillionaire walks in that door and gives us all what we want

We have a current owner who is about to run a $50 million dollar payroll after three straight 100+ loss seasons. After watching an owner who hasn’t tried winning in numerous seasons of his ownership, most reasonable Sox fans think the idea of any other owner will be an improvement. Afterall, how could it get any worse? The White Sox are a joke, the AL’s version of the Rockies.

You just gave a lecture stating you don’t lecture.

Juggling Jacob Young can play a few years for the Bananas after he's done with MLB lol

You can hold whatever opinions you like, but you insult everyone's intelligence by pretending like that this isn't exactly how Jerry and company got rich themselves. Hell he even used OPM for 80% of the purchase price of the White Sox, not in a corporation or loan, but quite literally private equity from unidentified and undisclosed private investors on behalf of which he acts to this day. It's a duck bro. You are quacking at a duck to protect another duck.

There isn’t much to trade here. Not sure what fan frenzy you mean, none of us want to see this team continually recycling

they'll also trade and trade and trade to fulfil the fan's desire for trade frenzy. It's the formula of habitual losing baseball. All of the bad teams do it. We mention spending money but what top tier free agents want to come here without overpaying? What you get is overpriced free agents like Beni. Then our trade frenzy kicks in and then the salary dump for no level prospects. No shortage of those. Keep spinning that wheel.

He dropped a flyball but also made 2 really nice plays so theres that.

Caleb made around 5 elite throws today and was more or less mistake free. A few misses here or there, but that's normal for just about every QB in the NFL. I would be feeling great about the game, then I saw just how bad Russ looked against a real defense on SNF and that guy put up 450 yards on Dallas last week. Alas, you play the team that's on your schedule and the Bears really needed a game like this to get right. I think today's game puts us out of the bad team category and at least confirms that we'll be mediocre this year. But I wouldn't go on thinking we can win more than 8-9 games until they can show us performances like this on a consistent basis against better competition.

I give a fivick about professional sports

If you have a differing opinion and some stats to back up your view, fine. But no need for personal insults. I'm not going to stoop to your level..

Pipeline just released their top 50, Graterol checks in at 31, Romero isn't on the list. I get why they don't do it, but it irks me when they don't mention who the players are signing with.

Lmao I speak for the board when I say, with sincerity, this is fvking hilarious. So fvking funny

Private Equity ownership mlb Arctos Partners: Boston Red Sox*, Chicago Cubs, Houston Astros, Los Angeles Dodgers, San Diego Padres, San Francisco Giants Avenue Sports Fund: Baltimore Orioles RedBird Capital: Boston Red Sox* Steve Cohen/Mets 6/8 seems like a pretty good success rate for getting teams into the post season. Maybe the Red Sox or Astros don't make it...

We're tapped on trades. We have maybe a couple vets that might bring a C+ level prospect at the deadline next year. Robert if some team is desperate maybe gets us a back end top 100 guy. The only position we could possibly trade from youth wise would be C, but then we'd be right back in the spot of if a catcher goes down you're basically filling in a replacement level guy and there's always a risk you're trading a cost controlled young player already established as a solid MLB player for guys that never pan out. There's no guarantee trading Quero gets us any closer to winning 88 games or whatever. So the easy part of Getz's job is in many ways over. He got two free years to dick around and "rebuild". He'll probably get at least 2 more before Ishbia takes over, but if we lose 100 more next year there's no fucking way there's a case to keep him.

Which is why having a 3rd rate ballpark in a neighborhood with a poor reputation (fair or not, it exists) is a fair topic here.

I think "post championship" is doing more heavy lifting here than "no dan ryan." If you have to rely almost solely on the team being championship caliber to draw well, then your ballpark is just not really that attractive.

Outside of 2024, this is the Sox lowest single season attendance since last century. Adding 41,000 people to the worst in the 2000's isn't really a reason to brag about prices and giveaways.

It would be nice to see them actually accomplish that and see what would happen. In my mind that would be a terrific way to start.

That would certainly be a huge improvement over the current situation. They've had attendance issues with the current ballpark for 30 years save for the 2 or 3 years after they won the World Series. The numbers clearly show this. One huge benefit of this option is that it's all ISFA land. Of course, the Ishbias would still have to pay for a new stadium just as they would at the 78, but other sports owners are spending a lot more than JR is committing toward new stadiums, so while not a certainty it's not an out of the question. I don't think a plan to "just win" is enough because it's so tough to do consistently. The Mets owner threw a record amount of money into that team and how is that working out for them? Same with the Ishbias and the Suns. I also don't think just winning a few division titles or wild cards with early playoff exits is going to do much to move the needle for the Sox market share in Chicago at this point.

Especially because Jerry got rich by the 1970s and 1980s version of private equity.

The amazing part is that in the last 70 years the Royals, Rockies and soon to be White sox are the only teams without the excuse of being expansion teams to do this. I’d be shocked if Rockies don’t get to 4 next year too. That franchise is beyond screwed

I hope the team doesn't have another inactive off season. Rebuilding is no excuse for 4 straight 100-loss seasons.

Kyle Tucker and Cade Horton ring a bell? Seiya Suzuki? Ian Happ? Nico Hoerner? Dansby Swanson?

Moisés Alejandro Ballesteros? The likely NL rookie of the year is a Cubs pitcher. My opinion on 'entertainment' is that I'm actually watching these games when, the last three seasons, I was tuned out by now watching the minors or reading a book or something. One might actually enjoy watching the development of Teel, Montgomery, Quero, Taylor, Leasure, Sosa, et al. The young players are exciting and their ups and downs are worthy of analysis. Unsure why you're rooting for losses and what changed in your mind. You should elaborate. I went to an end of season Sox game last year and the so-called 'fans' were rooting for a loss so they could see the L record themselves. But when Chris Flexen went 6.1 scoreless in a 7-0 win, the 'fans' went wild and gave him a standing ovation. Former Sox Carson Fulmer had a 27 ERA that game. It was a very fun game to attend. Nobody wants to watch a loser. But some are patient and might appreciate "genuine progress" as that other thread discusses. Maybe I'm wrong, that there is no progression, but I'd rather be optimistic and wrong than pessimistic and wrong. It's still just a game; it's entertainment. The 'pessimists' seem to be proven wrong of late though, on Crochet and Montgomery notably. On the system generally which has yet to really be proven. But I think there's no reason for you to suddenly 'change' in this way, my friend.

Qualified vs good at the job seems to be the disagreement. I think he's technically quite qualified based on, ya know, the resumes of pretty much every other pbp person in baseball; he just isn't very good. I really like Wayne Randazzo with the Angels, a Chicagoland guy who did not attend a prestigious university and has less of a professional track record than Schriffen. He's technically less qualified, yet better at the job than Schriffen. I just tend to think, in most aspects of life, 'experience' is not a very good indicator of future success. Kind of a whiff on Schriff, right, but he has room to get better. Again, studying baseball is not rocket science. He just has to do it and want to do it. I dunno if he has the desire to get better at the job. I hope he does.

Sox have to go at least 5-1 this last week of the season to avoid 100 losses.

And couldn't find a buyer seems like the most important part there.

This is where I think you are wrong. Its pretty well known that many teams are not making money. The twins have significant debt. JR brought ishbia on to pay off debt. Many teams are probably making money but not all of them.

Conner isn't good, but is stark how much better the broadcast is with him in the booth

Sure, but you have to start somewhere. And I would rather see this vs another over the hill utility guy or mediocre reliever.

He doesn't rack up Ks, but I'm pretty fond of Martin and his ability to generally keep the team in games for 5+ This was start #24 for him and his 9th QS. It was #31 for Cease, who has 8 quality starts so far. Martin has failed to go 5 IP only twice all year while Cease has been chased early 10 times, so even with ~6 weeks of missed time Dart still has more 5+ inning starts on the season. Not bad at all for a 14th rounder.

I'm not absolving JR of jack crap but the Sox have been hurt considerably by structural changes in MLB: namely the competitive balance picks and the draft changes. You have every other team in the division getting additional picks and the Sox for all intents and purposes operate as a small market team, MLB just doesn't qualify them as one given the current rules.

The parking is pretty great but it shouldn’t be the selling point of a stadium.

Parking argument seems absurd to me. This isn't some field out in the middle of nowhere. It's reasonably well served by CTA from what posters have said, if not perfectly, well enough. How many people would stop coming if they couldn't just park within 500 feet of the stadium? Like 10% of the people that come out? 50%? I don't know, maybe our crack PR team could do some market research. The Mariners for all their failures have done a good job of making the area around Safeco a fun tailgate area and pregame spot. Did they close some parking lots? Sure did. The parking lot is now a vendor area and it's fine. Granted Seattle and Chicago are vastly different cities geographically and transit wise but I don't think many fans give half a crap about less parking. They want fun, things to do, people looking like they are having fun. You what doesn't look like fun? Giant parking lots.

They have made a lot of worse moves than this one. He was worth the risk if he could have been flipped like Feddee last year and he seemed like a decent enough guy. Much better approach than the idiotic signing of Clevenger.

They'll sign the usual bunch of cast offs, retreads, has-been's and injury prone guys because that's all JR will allow.