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These are unfair critiques IMO. He usually pulls the pitchers right at 100 pitches and these guys usually get yanked in the sixth or fifth. That's on the pitchers. And it's not Tony's fault those relievers for the most part stink. Stacking the lineup in asinine ways? I disagree, Most nights there have been four automatic outs or close to that in the lineup. That's a lot of automatic outs.

Riordan was pretty forceful in his prediction. If he's wrong he deserves some fan criticism for sure.

Not a bad post regarding the Sox chances now and in the future. For the Sox to make any noise, not only do they need big time upgrade in performance in pitching and defense, but need Robert, Eloy to become bonafide stars as well as Tim to remain a star and Abreu to do what he's done in the past, knock in a hella lotta runs. Good post taking the negative side of things.

If he's the real deal ... who is the last Sox top five draft pick to be a star? Or top three pick?

Nice win. Nice series. Sox should have a lot more of this against Central Div. foes even with injuries harming the team. Sox go into the all star break fairly hot which means NOTHING. After the many days off here, it's a new start for all teams. This Sox offense is built to lift and pull homers. If Sox can do that the offense will be OK post all-star break. If the Sox can't lift and pull homers they'll do a lot more of hitting right into the defensive shift(s) and striking out on lame sliders out of the zone. Kudos to Abreu for once again doing well after an abysmal start. He's a hit and walk machine right now. Vaughn and Anderson have been excellent obviously. Would love to see Sheets blossom. Zavala has been fine. The pitching sometimes shows signs of life. I'd say the starters are average to a little below average. Cease should be in the all star game obviously. Sox bullpen is lousy overall but the Sox do have a good closer which is vital if they ever get it together enough to be playoff/WS contenders this season. The Sox pretty much should be happy they are .500 IMO. My take is the team overall performed way worse than a .500 team pre all-star break. The defense blows so the key is lift and pull to score a batch of runs per game, get 7 innings out of the starters, have Liam be very hot, have Abreu be a great leader. As far as coaching ... Tony has done a couple head-scratching things (the intentional walks) but the bottom line is no manager would have a better record right now with this bunch than .500. Unless you believe managers have the ability to make players play better. This team if everything goes well could finish 10 over .500. If things remain sour, they could finish 10 under. Just my takes as a fan.

Happy for Vaughn and happy for the Sox. First round draft pick No. 3 overall. He's only 24. Seems like a guy who cares. If he can stay healthy (and why shouldn't he?) might be a homegrown star, at least I hope so. His old, traditional stats are all good. Not sure how he's doing in WAR and all that cause I don't really care. Love me some Vaughn. Nice first half, sir.

I know Wrigley is iconic and everything but where do these people get the money? I have some people coming to town and was checking out getting the best seats possible for the pathetic royals vs the rays next Saturday. If I got everything I wanted, at this time it'd be four diamond club boxes at 100 a pop. So that's 400. I assume parking is 40 or so. So that's 440 to get us in. I saw the crown boxes are 330 apiece for the luxury food seats, etc. It looked like all the diamond club boxes are sold out but I saw 4 seats at one of those secondary sites. Do u all know which site is the best to get tickets? Are they all legit and not ripoffs? I'd love to know if there's a significant percentage of Wrigley crowds from out of towners or if it's only 10 percent or so and the rest diehard Cub fans.

Wow, cupboard hasn't been bare for a while. I'm sure it adds something nice to the fall on the South side when Rice and Marist are good in football. Hope the team is still good. ... Did Badke get burned out?

Sox need more runs. Bullpen can't cover that many innings on the road against an average team. More runs baby.

How come the Sox can't just get rid of managers like other teams? I prefer the Phils' way. Do it out of nowhere and have the team be 'shocked' into getting hot under the new manager. If Tony steps down over the break I'm going to lose it and yell out loud. If the Sox bring in AJP for the first game of the second half, that's stupid. Sox will probably go 0-5 and 1-9 and be out of the race and be stuck with AJP. Dumb organization IMO.

Great post. It wouldn't be the modern White Sox without one, two or three guys or more out of action for whatever reason. Ugh. I do love me some Eloy when he's 100 percent tho.

Ozzie got me a WS title and I'll always be grateful. That team didn't dominate that postseason by itself. True managers don't do much but Ozz knew to let the starters start and have them pitch five innings! He pushed all the right buttons in a perfect postseason. Yes, this drama seals Oz's fate. it will remind teams they cannot hire Ozz cause he's 'the mouth that roars.' But Ozzie Guillen IN MY MIND is a genius and thanks Ozzie for the title. I do not care that he 'quit' on the team. KW wanted him out anyway and JR reluctantly was gonna choose KW over Ozzeroo. Ozzeroo is like Ditka in terms of roaring. But he got me as a fan a title and I love Ozz.

Not all of us.

The bats were roaring, Luis Robert is the face of the franchise going forward along with TA. Stay healthy please. What a rocket grand slam.

Hate to say it but you can and should give up on Eloy. He's injury prone. It's unfortunate and sad but he's injury prone and the Sox obviously have no solution to keeping him healthy in the future. I guess reluctantly you could keep him around and keep paying him but the guy can't stay on the field.

No offense to Eloy but this is about right amount of time for a relapse. Some of these guys are just injury prone.

Serious question: Are the Sox basically unwatchable? Mostly because of their approach to hitting? Except for diehard fans like we fans on this board, does anybody in Chicago give a flip about the Sox? B-O-R-I-N-G. p.s. Kudos to my guy, Jose Abreu. He's close to .300 BA after being so horrid in terms of BA early on. They should add him to the all star game just cause he's a class act and now close to .300.

Bring in Don Kessinger as player/manager! I mean interim manager. .... Nyuk nyuk. Little joke.

Yep. They need to be at the max 7 games out of a playoff spot at the break when Tony steps down. However, I don't like the way the Sox do things. Usually when a manager gets canned or "retires" it comes during the season (like Phils this year) and the team rattles off several wins in a row and has a nice stretch. Doing this at the all star break will stink. They'll announce it on home run derby day then we'll have time for it to sink in with the team and it'll be all organized with a team meeting and the "shock value" will be gone. Instead of just accepting the choice as Phils had to do with Thompson there will be debate how the new guy won't matter and u wait, Sox won't get the usual jolt and WILL NOT go on 5-10 game win streak with the new skipper. Do it TONIGHT and get some value out of it White Sox!

Last sentence I agree with; first sentence cmon. No way this team is better than it has shown so far. Now could it improve with the same roster? Maybe but doubtful. These players circa 2022 season have stunk. The bullpen again is way overrated. It's highly inconsistent although the closer is pretty good. The everyday players have been hurt and mostly awful hitters. They are for the most part not hitting home runs and their batting averages are low with low number of walks. This team should not be in first. And yes the injuries have been a factor too. The team could look a lot better but I bet u Tony and Stone and Hahn would all agree when guys are not hitting it out of the park nowadays it tends to look lifeless. I think a good manager might have the team one over .500 and that would really be stretching it.

Hey Harry. What's the verdict on the new football coach. Is he liked? Respected? Thought of as nobody special? A buffoon or a stellar replacement? I figured word would be out since there's offseason workouts and assembling of talent to be done. You need players to win. Does he have a good team coming back? Did he add any skill position transfers or big linemen, linebackers? Finally ... what's Badke doing now? Does he still office at Bro Rice? He's arguably a top two coach in Rice history. Hoping Rice can stay elite under the new guy and not turn into St. Laurence/Benet football (decent but not a contender for the trophy).

Today's win was the type that keeps u watching the standings at least out of the corner of your eye. Good to come back from down 2 to beat a bad Tiger team at home. Thing is Sox are about to get smoked on the road. I say this even after their nice sweep of SFG. Sox vs, divisional teams on road is one big LOL. Some blowouts, some bullpen implosions, some defensive lapses or bad baserunning calls ... we know they are a comin'

I'll give Pollock (whom I hate) credit for going oppo field for that big hit today. He does that in key spots a few more times and he might be a little more popular. Right now he's kind of Erstad-ish (though I got buried on here for ripping Pollock a few weeks ago when he was hot).

I'm a Tony apologist but I'll tell u one thing. Tony deserves to have the players quit on him and have discord after giving up the other day down only six runs. People get on my guy Ozzie for giving up on that season when he negotiated with Miami (even though KW wanted him out) but Tony giving up down six says everything we need to know. He's saying the White Sox players cannot concoct the same rally concocted against them earlier this season (was it Cleveland that got six in the ninth or something to beat the Sox? Or some other team). Yeah you aren't gonna win down six without help (some walks, a grand slam, then stringing a few more hits together) but it's a fricking joke to give up down six. It just is!!!!! Why did he take TA out in the fifth? Missed that one today. Loafing? That would be another no no. You don't mess with the team's best player. Bye bye Tony.

Hate to say it but if there's clubhouse disunity Sox have themselves to blame for firing Renteria. Managers don't make much of a difference and Renteria should still be the skipper. Getting fired after leading them to the playoffs was b.s. I had some problems with RR with moves in the playoffs but looking back they probably aren't his fault. Front office prolly had some input in his moves. Karma maybe hitting the Sox for an unfair firing. You can't tell me RR deserved to get axed after leading a historically mediocre franchise to a playoff berth.