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If Jerry won't go longer than 3 years then the Sox going to be signing a lot of Lance Lynn types and those guys come with their own risks of falling off a cliff at any point in their mid 30s.

Did Spiegel get let go?

90 losses would be a 30 game improvement. Doubtful. If they could only lose 105-110 that's still progress

I thought there was a good chance they lost 110+ and pushed 120.

I know I'm just box score watching, but does Vargas look as terrible as his stats?

I read Kiley's writeup on Montgomery and question if he watched him play at all this year.

It is so weird to have Grady Sizemore as the Sox manager. I hated that guy when he was with Cleveland.

Moncada has 14 career fWAR through age 29. That's disappointing, not a complete bust. Brien Taylor never made the Majors

Delmon Young

Moncada, Robert and Jimenez were more disappointments than failures. Giolito was good when he had spider tack. Anderson had a few good years. Cease was good. Kopech was the one guy that completely failed.

I will take arguments that it was KW.

Like at this point I wish they kept Hahn. At least he knew how to identify minor league talent. If they failed, they failed at the MLB level and his guys more disappointed than outright failed.

And ppl called me crazy for saying his options might not be picked up.

He won't be throwing enough innings to do fix his numbers.

Does a bear s%*# in the woods? Is the pope Catholic?

1. Finally 2. How will Getz f*** this up?

Quite possible.

Touche

I tried a new account and it didn't work

I haven't been able to re-join TalkBears after my name change despite trying multiple times. I never get the confirmation email.

He has a .714 OPS, 96 wRC+ and isn't even a positive fWAR defender this year. It is quite possible injuries have ruined him like they did Moncada. We'll have to wait until 2025 to find out.

Robert will be here to start 2025. He has been injured and bad in 2024. I can't see anyone giving anything for him this winter, and if he doesn't bounce back next year his 2026 option is in jeopardy.

Honestly, part of the issue is that the 2019 season was a mirage due to the bouncy ball and spider tack. Eloy's ground ball rate was always a red flag, Giolito was never the same after the spider tack ban, Kopech was a headcase and Moncada got destroyed by injuries and long covid. Furthermore, Anderson lost his power in his 30s and it took the league 5 seasons to figure out Robert can't lay off a slider in the LH batter's box. For me, Moncada is the biggest what if? because he had elite exit velocities before his bout with covid. He lost bat speed and it never returned. But it is possible that was due to the baseballs they used in 2018-19.

They didn't get nothing out of Moncada, he just was an oft injured solid MLB regular rather than Jose Ramirez.

Yeah it sure seems that way. No reason to get attached to prospects and drafting because we're probably looking at a decade before they even get close to division contention. I'm coping by finding players I like in the system and hope that they find success before moving on to a contender.