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Sounds pretty cool to me.

QUOTE(danman31 @ Aug 17, 2005 -> 08:42 AM) Believe me, that's not embarrasing. Definately not. So hows Mizzu treating ya? You already hook up with your sis or cousin?

Happy Bday Nuke!!!!!!! Hope you had a good one and my guess is your about to. Now go out and enjoy one of those 90 degree nights in Arizona

Pretty much everyone calls me Gage. And than a couple of my buddies will ocassionally call me Ten-Gage.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Aug 17, 2005 -> 07:28 AM) Wouldn't that border on collusion? I've been told that teams will do that sort of stuff, but on a less formal basis (for the exact reason you say). Its kind of one of those un-written things. However, if a non-contender wants someone they'll take him and that can definately happen more often than not. In the Sox perspective if they are making a deal with a team in the NL involving someone on the 40 man roster, well, unless that person is Ryan Wing or Kevin Walker, he's not going to get through unclaimed.

QUOTE(JUGGERNAUT @ Aug 17, 2005 -> 07:24 AM) No it's common sense. This isn't X-Box. It's the real world. There's consequences for the dumb-arse moves you make. I should add I do agree with one thing your saying Juggs and its the non-contenders. I don't think non-contenders block deals. The reason behind this is, not just one non-contender is trying ot make a deal, usually most, if not all of them are and I think when it comes down to it them blocking a deal is just going to get them burned because than the other teams will block their deal. They are making these trades to get better, but aren't going to the playoffs anyway. So I tend to think those deals get blocked less often (of course how the non-contenders know not to put a claim on a certain player, I don't know). Heck, Gm's may call up those teams (hoping they have a good relationship) and may ask a player to slide (sometimes you get those extra type of moves when you make a few trades or a team owes you a favor). In terms of Bmac though, no contending team in the AL would let him slide through cause they know he's the type of guy that could bring the Sox a potential impact player.

QUOTE(YASNY @ Aug 17, 2005 -> 12:11 AM) Replacing Konerko with Blum probably saved a game in NY as Blum snared a liner headed for the RF corner with the tying and winning runs on base for the Yankees. Edit: Now, I'm suddenly not so sure it was against NY. Actually that was another thing I questioned. Blum made a heck of a nice pick in the bottom of the 9th, but I can't figure out why Blum is out their for defensive purposes. I figure Konerko is the better of the two defensively, especially when it comes to picking the ball. Maybe I'm wrong though and that was a sweet pick by Blum on Uribe's throw (it was a very good play all around).

QUOTE(JUGGERNAUT @ Aug 17, 2005 -> 06:37 AM) How often has a lower record team claimed players going to the non-contender to block a contender? I can't recall any such year. I don't think we can rule it out just yet. Keep in mind any player the White Sox request ML waivers on to facilitate the trade the Reds get to claim before any contender. Teams with worst records than the Reds would be the only ones to block it. Why would they do that? The entire American League could be able to block McCarthy before the Reds even got a shot at claiming him. There is no way a team would let McCarthy slide through, especially a contender cause if they saw Brandon on his way through they'd instantly know a big time deal was in play and nab McCarthy, therefor in a sense blocking the trade.

QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Aug 16, 2005 -> 10:16 PM) Question to throw out there. Would you actually like to see the Sox lead get to about 6 games on September 15th?? While that is number would be very low, it would certainly give the Sox a kick in the ass, and maybe more motivation to pick up the pace. Im not saying I want it to be at 6 games, but would it be the worst thing in the world for this team right now? no, cause it means they've been tanking it down the stretch and thats the last thing I wnat to see.

QUOTE(forrestg @ Aug 16, 2005 -> 10:14 PM) I after reading many of the sox threads believe this about Charlotte any ideas on why the better team spirit and players are better at double AA Bham? I'm not in the lockeroom on a day to day basis but I think a large part of it has to do with the extent of AAAA veteran on the club and for that fact most AAA clubs. Quite frankly I think you end up getting a lot of guys that end up getting really frustrated and that the young players just don't have fun being around. On a AA team you usually don't have many guys that have been around the minors for a long time. I think you also have a little more team unity because most of the guys on a AA team are similar in age while a team like Charlotte has very few young players and quite a few guys that are a lot older. I do think you'll see a different group of vets brought in next year down in Charlotte, at least to a certain extent. It also looks to be a much younger club.

Umm...Mcgwire never got caught or at least not that I know of.

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Aug 16, 2005 -> 10:01 PM) Who do you think would cost more Villone or Ibanez? Villone but still... Seattle has proven that they are dillusional with the best of 'em. Asking for Brandon McCarthy for Villone was bulls*** and I could see them making a similar request for Ibanez which just isn't going to happen. I know we couldn't move McCarthy or Anderson if we wanted to but IMO they'd be asking for a guy like Sweeney, Gio or Young. Ibanez has a worse contract so I don't think they'd have that type of an asking price. Than again I've been in shock over what a lot of teams have been asking for. Heck, I'd like to think Munoz and Diaz would be an offer the Mariners would listen to. But with recent trends I think its more like Tracey and I got to be honest, I'd still be really hard pressed. Once again, to me it comes down to how much of an upgrade is Ibanez over Everett and quite frankly I'd rather have Everett playing everyday than Ibanez (whose having a pretty damn good year). I think Everett is a little more battle tested.

Just want to point out...Angels turned down acquiring his contract at the trade deadline and I'd think they plan on doing the same thing. They don't appear all that interested in Sweeney. Although, Oaklands surge could definately make them think a little harder. Also Casey Kochman will not be part of the package, he wouldn't clear waivers. On a sidenote, he's starting to look a lot more like the guy scouts thought he'd be (ie a pretty damn good player). Seems to be a lot more agressive during his most recent callup and its showing (average is still awful, but lately he's been doing pretty good or at least in the games I've seen).

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Aug 16, 2005 -> 09:58 PM) Agree 100% Jason. Whether you're a scouts guy or a stats guy, you can't deny that Baj is CLEARLY better than his competition at Charlotte. When I saw him pitch in the AAA All-Star Game, I saw at least two plus pitches. He only pitched for an inning (maybe it was two?), but I saw a good fastball, and a really good slider. And, amazingly, he's having (arguably) the BEST year of his pro-career. He's striking out about 10.95 batters per nine, and his ERA is at a career low 1.17. And that was after a bad outing, too -- it's been teatering (sp?) 1.00 the whole season. There is no reason that hasn't gotten a shot with the big club. I hear all the time, "Oh, you could tell that he doesn't have it", and people say this based on the eight f***ing innings he pitched last year, and you have the feeling that Ozzie feels the same way -- that he can judge a guy by such a small sample size. Almost the same story with Majewski. He K'ed about a batter per inning at Charlotte, and even more amazing, gave up only TWO homers in over 40 IP. And he never got a shot with the White Sox, either. It's a touchy subject with me, because people say that I only think he's good 'cause he posted at Soxtalk. And those people have no clue how awesome he's been at Charlotte. By the way Keith, I saw you mentioned Josh Fields. He's a really interesting guy, but he's undergoing surgery (I think its like a labrum operation...not positive, gonna shoot his agent an email before I head out to Chicago) and will be out for the season. Supposedly he'll be back at 100% by the start of the season, but I gotta admit I now have some doubts about Fields. Hopefully he can come back and pitch cause the guy always appeared to have a rubber arm (he'd go innings out of the pen and really had great periphial stats).

QUOTE(fathom @ Aug 16, 2005 -> 10:01 PM) I have the feeling that if Baj was ever acquired in a trade by KW, he'd have a much better chance at making the big league team. There's no excuse to have Adkins on the team. Adkins is the type of guy the Rockies call up, not a team playing for the playoffs. I gotta be honest....I hope Baj is dealt in the offseason that way he can get his chance. He's way too good of a guy to have to stick around and not get his shot when worse guys continue to get called up. I'll flip out even worse when he's not one of the players the Sox call up when rosters expand.

QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Aug 16, 2005 -> 09:53 PM) Actually, I thought it was the reverse... I didn't see Garland top 90 on the gun. Granted I wasn't watching the gun all game, but the highest I happened to notice was 89. He just had nothing(movement wise) on his pitches. Even his changeup looked terrible. I don't know...the feed I was watching didn't have the velocity so I was going by my eye (I could of been totally wrong though). It just looked to me like he was throwing hard or in a sense over-throwing as opposed to just pitching (when you pitch it just flows out of your hand and you get so much more movement...don't ask me why, it just happens, haha). But your dead on in terms of his movement. Right after the 1st inning of that game I figurd out real quick I better call a friend or two cause I wasn't going to want to sit around all game and watch that whooping

Maybe PK should find a slumpbuster for the entire team

QUOTE(forrestg @ Aug 16, 2005 -> 09:49 PM) Hate to say it our hitting sucked too Hermanson blew the save. Jenks and Viscaino actually didn't pitch badly Adkins, suppose to be a mop up pitcher. an inning eater.. The reason I understand that Adkins was brought up and not Bajeneru who has a era of 1.17 was that Baj might not be able to go 3 or 4 innings if they need him to. Well we found out today that Adkins is not capable of getting anyone out let go an inning or longer. amazingly I only saw one swing and miss. I don't think he's even worth a spot on Charlotte's roster. :headshake Not many guys in Charlotte are worth a roster spot. Charlotte is a futile place to be this year and I hope that next year they can get things to work out. Its funny too, because Bham has been making the playoffs year in year out. It sucks too cause Charlotte has some great people in the front office.

QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Aug 16, 2005 -> 07:46 PM) Garland is the same way when he's going good. He makes it look easy in the early innings and gets lots of ground balls, but struggles late in the game with lots of flyballs. Its funny cause usually a sinkerballer will just continue to get better as their arm fatigues. They are the types of guys that give up runs early and than get into their grooves and can shut guys down. Who knows though, but I"ve noticed the same thing you guys have. On a sidenote, this past weekend, you could just see Garland was throwing too hard and it really bit him in the butt. Garland is at his finest when he's a few MPH off on his fastball because he gets a lot more sink on the pitches. Than every once in a while gear up on his fastballs upstairs (which he has done so well this year).

QUOTE(BHAMBARONS @ Aug 16, 2005 -> 01:31 PM) Barons will see Carrilo this weekend I like Carillo. If I were running the draft thats who the Sox would have. Of course I'm not knocking Broadway, he's doing pretty good himself.

QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Aug 16, 2005 -> 09:37 PM) But where would he play???? This offense is averaging 3.21 Runs/9 innings in August Maybe he could replace Konerko...cause Timo is the offense....err Carl is the offense.

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Aug 16, 2005 -> 09:34 PM) Jason, Adkins has had one really good year in his pro-baseball career, and that was a few years ago -- to be exact, at Modesto at Oakland. That's it. He's a AAAA arm, someone you use if you need an extra arm for a September callup. At no point, should he EVER be on the 25-man roster of a team with the best record in baseball. It's simply inexcusible. I'm not laying the loss on Adkins. Our hitters were garbage tonight. But people say that Adkins was brought up to throw multiple innings. Multiple innings?!?!?! He can barely get out of one inning... I don't care if Jeff Bajenaru can only throw two innings at a time. He can at least throw those two innings a helluva lot better than Adkins can throw his three innings or whatever. Your talking to the preacher. Adkins is absolutely horrific, he has zero...count that again....zero good pitches. He throws a straight fastball and doesn't have a clue how to change speeds (its why he's gotten shallacked most of his minor league career). But Keith, he did pitch pretty well the first two months of last season or at least I remember him having a good ERA parts of last year. Than everything went back to normal and he got flat out rocked after the all star break. Fact....Bajenaru has a plus slider (anyone that watched the AAA all star game would of seen it too). He also has control (something Adkins doesn't have) and Baj does a good job moving his pitches and varying speeds (something Adkins has no idea how to do). Adkins was billed on the basis of being a power pitcher. His first time in Chicago he was clocked in the upper 90's...than last season he was pitching low 90's. He can not and I mean can not get by with the stuff he is. I don't think he'd play a full season with Tampa Bay (nor would Kevin Walker) and I'm flat out sick of Ozzie sticking with a guy simply because he's familiar with them. I don't know what the org has against Baj because he has better stuff than Adkins and any freaking scout would tell you that. You don't put up an ERA under 2 in AAA (in his 1st full season in AAA) without having at least some skill. Also just remember, last guy I said nice things about down in AAA that was in the pen was Gary Majewski (most everyone laughed at me when I said he'd be a quality reliever) and whats he's doing for the Nationals (pretty damn good). If there is one thing I have at least a pretty good eye for its pitching and quite frankly Baj is the best reliever in the org at this point of the game and he's a whole lot better than Adkins or Walker, both in the terms of knowing how to pitch and stuff. People can tell me Ozzie knows talent, but I think thats total bs. Hawk was busy yapping today about what a great talent evaluator Ozzie is and I just laughed. Ozzie is a motivator plane and simple.

QUOTE(ScottPodRulez22 @ Aug 16, 2005 -> 09:32 PM) Ozzie cant manage the bullpen everygame like its going to go into 16 innings that only happens once every 5-10 years. There is nothing wrong with entering your 16th inning and finally using the last man in the pen. Think about the Indians fiasco early in the year when Viz got hung out to dry because no one else was available. That was mis-managing your pen. I really can't complain about the way Ozzie did it tonight. He was managing for the win in the 8th inning and played the matchups. Personally I'm not a big proponent of the whole righty lefty crap cause I think when a guy is looking good you go with him. Marte was looking good tonight and I'd of just left him in. But thtas not what Ozzie's done and quite frankly you can't argue with the results (1st place, best record in the AL). And in the 8th inning while your winning your damn right your gonna manage whatever way you see best. At that point your not thinking of a 16 inning game cause 99% of the time the game will finish in regulation or at worse go an extra inning or two and the best way to win that game in the next couple innings is by going with your best guys, even if it is for a shorter period of time. In short, you'll win a lot more games managing as if it were going 9 than you would if you always managed with the thought the game is going to go 16 innings.

QUOTE(JimH @ Aug 16, 2005 -> 06:33 PM) The official White Sox website indicates a Major league source says the Sox are after Raul Ibanez. He'd be a good pickup, he's a very good hitter. I agree...could play a little outfield and I don't think he'd cost the Sox a top prospect, maybe a Sean Tracey type though (ie a pretty darn good one). Plus its a left handed bat.

Dmitri Young is a pretty decent player, but quite frankly, he's not much of an upgrade over Carl Everett and has a worse contract.