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2016 draft having a rough year outside of Hansen, largely due to injuries. TJS for Burdi Call looks destroyed by his rib injury Curbelo in that same mystery zone of unknown injury Fisher/Collins pretty meh.

QUOTE (steveno89 @ Jul 16, 2017 -> 04:37 PM) I'm gunning for a top three draft pick for sure. Without Frazier, Quintana, Robertson, swarzak and possibly kahnle or melky we will be a pretty awful team. I don't think the sox will catch the phillies, but top three is very realistic. Probs controversial but I do think we will catch the phillies. They underperformed imo, in the first half. We often overperformed. They have nola back. We have a maybe healthy rodon and garbage. If our promotions play well then maybe its moot. But I expect a run for #1.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 16, 2017 -> 04:17 PM) The idea of Q on a team that can play defense and where he doesn't have to worry that if he gives up 2 runs, one of them unearned on a ground ball, he will lose...my goodness that's terrifying. Yeah, the defense upgrade plus facing 2 easy pitcher outs helping cut down on pitch counts are big.

A good inning from D rob. Let's walk this off. Yolmer crush the scoreboard please.

QUOTE (soxforlife05 @ Jul 16, 2017 -> 04:02 PM) A's got hosed. Way to lower the bar for relievers Oakland. One of the reasons I'm glad we traded Q just as As started shopping in earnest. I think they are a team that can undercut you because they tend to ask for some weird returns sometimes.

QUOTE (steveno89 @ Jul 16, 2017 -> 03:55 PM) The price tag for hand is very high, making Robertson an attractive piece, especially if the sox kick in any cash. Good point. I think you are right.

QUOTE (steveno89 @ Jul 16, 2017 -> 03:42 PM) Likely speculating on the price. I'd be thrilled to land a top 100 prospect for him I just think it's weird to go out a limb like that. Tweet I would expect: White Sox looking for a top prospect or two in return for David Robertson. And they think they can get it. Tweet we received: Sox will get at least one top 100 prospect for Robertson. This just after good but not top 100 guys were traded for 2 good bullpen guys. Just weird.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 16, 2017 -> 03:22 PM) Not only that, but he actually points out the quality of the return. That's a wild f***ing tweet. Seriously. Optimistically you'd want to hope this come from knowledge that there are some already on the table. But maybe even it's coming out of Nats saying they would have had to give one up for DRob? Weird timing and content. I don't feel like you see a prediction that explicit (top 100)

7 IP of shutout ball, 12 Ks. I knew Q would live up to it. Love that guy.

Per White Sox Well deserved.

6 IP, 2 h, 11ks, 0 runs.

This will be a painful second half.

QUOTE (TRU @ Jul 16, 2017 -> 11:58 AM) I think people are underestimating how bad this team is going to be once more of these guys get traded Seriously. Especially when our bullpen is gone.

Booooo

Baseball eh

Good piece and great speed getting it live. I've referred to this about 5 times already.

QUOTE (iWin4Ron @ Jul 16, 2017 -> 12:45 PM) The Wsox should really try to add DRob and take on some of his $$$ to get a really nice package here. We were eating a bunch of robertsons salary in the proposed Nats DRob deal and only getting lizardo/Ward so I'm just going to expect about same. Maybe luzardo had a big reputation among scouts though.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Jul 16, 2017 -> 12:34 PM) I don't see them "ponying up" per se. I doubt Robles, Fedde, and Soto are going anywhere. I think anyone else could be on table. Yeah I think they seriously expect a lot of Fedde in bullpen soon.

I don't have FOMO of that return, at least. But sure makes me bring down my expectations for Robertson.

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Jul 16, 2017 -> 10:44 AM) The fulll 3/4 seems an excessive price...that's an immense benefit to Texas and allows them to sign numerous prospects, they otherwise wouldn't be able to sign. And it costs them only 1 prospect? Most of the top 50 are signed. Not like they could use this to sign the top 10 guys.

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Jul 16, 2017 -> 10:52 AM) I'm not sure what you're asking. J2? If you mean international signings, I will ask this - how many of the top prospects we just acquired were international signings? But that's not my point anyway - my point is that we just gave Texas a goldmine, and received only 1 modest prospect in return. Now we may not have had any use for that goldmine ourselves...but you could say the same about Quintana - we had no use for him the next 2 years, but we still tried to get full value. I don't disagree with you on J2 and our performance, but complaining about this trade too much is essentially saying I didn't want to sign Robert. We could have treated this cash a la Baltimore and just got jack nothing for it, so to get a projectable SS is defensible. Because of Robert uncertainty in both money and time to negotiate I'm not shocked we couldn't fill out much of a class for 2017. I expect more next year.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 16, 2017 -> 10:34 AM) If this was the best offer for our cap space, I am 100% OK with it. It is a high ceiling guy with some flaws. If you can get through to him to stop swinging at everything, he has the tools to turn into something. If he busts, its not like we could use the cap space anyway. We did sign 2 guys too.

https://www.si.com/mlb/2017/07/13/trade-rum...-home-runs-cubs Reminds me of Bo Jackson schoolyard legend type stuff

Well I hope someone interesting comes back. Spent way too much time checking my phone.

Not a good final for men's either. Cilic started weeping in second set. Go Rog though. Incredible.