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Yanks have solid 2B options, can plant LeMahieu back there every day, shift Pereza over when Volpe is ready to take over SS. I could see them moving Gleyber while his stock is up after a good year. Hard to believe dudes only 25 still.

Agreed, just limits the teams that will be in on him. Some Twitter comments out there about attaching Liam to Yaz to dump his salary, now fully convinced that is the FO plan to make room for Salvy Perez's shitty deal.

Only 2 guys in the league with a higher AAV at the position, 1 being Diaz, who is younger and better than Liam. There's very little if any surplus value in my humble opinion.

Liam's contract is basically exactly market, it's difficult to imagine someone giving up decent controllable talent for a 34 year old closer with an elbow hanging by a thread signed to a market deal. Unless they're absolutely desperate for a closer I suppose.

Haha actually just fired it up on a recent flight, it holds up well.

Can we have one of their young middle infielders now at least?

Hahaha well at least we found some common ground today.

It's tough to argue that, and DD clearly know what he's doing. Honestly part of my disdain for this deal probably relates to never being a fan of a big market franchise that acts like one.

So by this logic, I'm not allowed to be upset that our owner spent money on Joe Kelly and Leury Garcia?

Could be, or they could pull a 2017-2022 Chicago Cubs with a bunch of albatross contracts and have a decade of nuclear winter baseball.

I'm the other Jose hater on this board, just slightly less vehemently than Ron.

I'm ok with it RayRay, if we all agreed here what would be the point?

Except he's a currently a below average defensive SS and will be playing 2B for about 80% of this contract. Sure, he fills an immediate need for the Phils and makes them legit WS contenders and a video game lineup, which will be fun. I just sense pain in years 4-10 of that deal.

I legit spend every free night I have simming through seasons on OOTP Baseball (highly recommend for all you casual MLB fans out there).

Missed you during the breaking news of Jose's deal Ron, I cracked a nice bottle of bourbon that night to celebrate.

Now laughing out loud at being called a casual, pretty obsessed with the sport.

Trea, while fun to watch, chases way too many pitches and has particularly bad plate discipline. Speed plays a huge part of his success, which tends to wane past 30. Will he continue to hit so well on bad pitches? I doubt it, hence my laughter for this absurd contract. https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/savant-player/trea-turner-607208?stats=statcast-r-hitting-mlb

I just laughed out loud for a good 10 seconds, that is the worst contract in baseball history.

kids got alligator's blood...

For sure, if I'm extending that deal to Carlos I want an opt out after year 2-3, and the final 2 years to be team options, but with the insane numbers these old guys are getting, I bet some GM justifies it by 'Los being the best under 30 arm on the market and giving him something close to that. I would think Robbie Ray's deal last year and tacking on a bit for inflation would be the starting point for his negotiations.

A broken 35 year old DeGrom just got 5-$185M, 29 year old Carlos has every right to ask for that deal and someone will likely pay it.

All that young, multi-year controllable SP talent is just burning a hole in their pocket apparently.

Yes!!! Please trade this budding Sox killer out of the division. Love watching him hit, just wish it wasn't for the Twins.

Adam spent a lot of time drinking at Houndstooth and getting mixed up with the Peavy, Ryan Dempster and his now ex-wife's party crew and all the nurses they passed back and forth, and Brent Morel, who was the team's weed dealer at the time. Adam didn't exactly put forth a full effort while playing here.