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  1. A retractable domed stadium or even a stadium with the outfield dimensions of Comiskey Park or Rate Field would not fit on what Ishbia calls "The Railyards." No wonder he or his surrogates never approached that as a possibility. A partial view of the Willis Tower and high rise buildings from some seats apparently was a motivation for Ishbia, but the primary one was to own all of the real estate on and surrounding this thing. He seeks to side-step public ownership of Rate Field and the land surrounding it. He doesn't understand that a view of high rise buildings means nothing to Chicagoans, beyond the anticipation of traffic jambs and longer trips to get home. As a predicate, Ishbia convinced/paid-off/coerced (whatever you choose to believe) Amtrak to move a monster 60 acre rail yard to the Rate Field parking areas. That taking of public land amounts to a desecration of the hallowed ground on the South side, the area where the White Sox have played even prior to the completion of Comiskey Park, including the 1906 defeat of the Cubs at South side park. Does anyone realize how the construction of that rail yard will impact fans, residents of Bridgeport and surrounding businesses during and after that thing is moved there? It would be a disaster. As to what Ishbia calls "The Railyards" .. I have seen numerous architectural renderings in my time - long enough to question their accuracy, their scale, and how they square with reality. First, the open-air stadium makes very little practical or business sense - primarily because of the weather in Chicago. The lack of attendance because of rainy weather alone is hard to quantify. My own group (now out in the SW suburbs) has often decided not to even depart for a game when the weather even looks like rain is possible. I noted that there are positives in terms of vehicular access and CTA bus access on the East side of the canal, which will result in a lot more attendance from residents from Pilsen, Little Village, Brighton Park and so on. Not sure how the issue of White Sox versus Cub fan attendance in West and NW suburbs of Chicago is relevant to this. To the extent it is relevant, the issue would be where most fans who frequently attend games currently live. My guess is that that fan base ifs firmly on the South side of Chicago and adjacent South and Southwest suburbs. Ishbia doesn't know anything about that and his plan disrespects the South side tradition that has been built for over a century here. My own view as a long time Sox fan, resident of Chicago and the SW suburbs is that Ishbia, his brother and father who are backing this absurd self-serving plan can fvk off.
  2. A few posters here have had positive things to say about (the 7) retractable major league dome stadiums, and in particular The Rogers Centre and T-Mobile Park. I like both of them. Yes, there is a large additional cost, but the billionaire/finance guy/ business guru should have no issue figuring that out. Surely the all-year use of a domed stadium for concerts and other events would eventually pay for it. Instead he dives into this plan to relocate a massive train yard to Rate Field. Insist on the hardest path even though it could be the wrong one. I was disappointed when I did not hear any discussion or consideration of a retractable dome, except here on this forum. Meanwhile, they are sweating at Wrigley Field tonight. Too much rain and heat/humidity this summer/early fall. Dog days.
  3. If Ishbia could move the stadium without trashing Bridgeport and Armor Park with a massive train yard it might be easier to swallow for those of us opposed to it. Instead he is intent on ramming through a plan that severely diminishes surrounding real estate and business values (without compensation) and the appeal of the larger surrounding areas including IIT, Bronzezille and South Halsted. There is plenty of real estate between 33rd St and 39th St to build a retractable dome stadium and add bars and restaurants in the adjacent and surrounding area....instead of sh1tcanning the area and with it over 120 years of baseball history. A glorified concept of an open air stadium with a view of the S Loop appears to be what motivated Ishbia. Maybe he overlooked the impact on attendance from rainy, cold or hot/humid weather in Chicago or perhaps, he just realized that there might not be enough room for a retractable dome on the 78 or the train yard. No discussion about whether a retractable dome or open-air stadium would be best for the fans or for business....he just keeps on pushing and pushing.
  4. Yea . Rogers mentioned in an interview that he had played inmany , many games at Rate Field on other teams (primarily the Tigers). I really loathe the Tigers, but anyway, I just don't like Rogers. Someone mentioned that he looked like an aging porn star. LOL. Anyway, Romo deserves it.
  5. I would keep Romo and DFA Rogers. IMO, Romo has been pretty solid behind the plate even though he has struggled offensively. Also, Romo seems to have a batter rapport with the pitching staff (just my opinion/ perception) and he has done a pretty good job framing pitches and challenging strike calls. Rogers is a Detroit Tiger at heart and always will be.
  6. A business partner and friend of mine who lives in Brighton Park is all for a proposed stadium at the Amtrak/BNSF site. He pointed out that it will be accessible to his neighborhood but even moreso to residents of Pilsen and Little Village. No trains needed. They can drive a short distance or come in on CTA buses down Cermak, 16th, 18th, 26th streets etc. A short hop. It's potentially going to be a positive for those neighborhoods - especially Pilsen. Los White Sox. He did share a laugh at the expense of Cub fans. He told me that he went to one of the Crosstown games and sat near a section with some tough hombres. As he described it they took care of business when a couple of Cub fans got nasty.
  7. tray replied to oldsox's topic in Pale Hose Talk
    Boston Smith (5'10" 195 lbs.) is a catcher in the Minors. He was not rated very well defensively. What other position can this guy play? Maybe he was traded before the White Sox explored other options for him.
  8. tray replied to oldsox's topic in Pale Hose Talk
    My own crystal ball says that Sam's value to the line-up would not be easily replaced with Bonemer or other guy in the Minors. We know that Sam brings a lot of intangibles to the field that we love. Why project what a minor league guy might do in the future while at the same time not providing that same latitude to the guys that are already here like Braden, Sam etc.
  9. Will Ishbia back a new contract for Mune? If so, why would this be an issue financially? Just re-sign him.
  10. Yes, too late. Now let the Sky Fall.
  11. Yea Braden has been a disappointment. This team was exciting in the first half of the season.
  12. Just not enough talent. Always seems like the case with the White Sox.
  13. Game Set Match. Good luck next season.
  14. Another professional sports franchise Billionaire boy toy, this time Jared's brother Josh Kushner buying the Lakers. https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2026/aug/21/los-angeles-lakers-12-5bn-sale-bob-iger-josh-kushner-private-equity-nba Today teams are flipped with the calculated emotionlessness that a real estate speculator might get rid of a block of cheaply renovated apartments, and the old ideas of heritage, tradition, family, and community that once bound the pro leagues’ owner dynasties to their teams are now mostly useful as a rhetorical device, rather than a set of values to respect in practice. There are still teams in the NBA holding out against the tide of private money: the Indiana Pacers have been in the same (majority) hands since 1983, the Chicago Bulls since 1985. But many long-time owners are now spying the exit, which is understandable given the boom in franchise valuations. The NBA opened up to institutional money – investment from private equity firms, hedge funds, venture capital funds, and the like – in 2022, the first big pro league in US sports to embrace the worldwide emergence of sport as an investible asset class like technology or construction. It makes a rough kind of sense, given the NBA’s status as first mover, that basketball is now at the forefront of a fresh intensification in the sports investment cycle. Iger and Kushner’s deal to buy the team will have to be structured in various tricky and byzantine ways – most likely as a consortium involving a number of individuals and firms, with finance coming via a mix of debt and cash. The families are out; the sharks are in. What exactly does private equity want from sport? “Good returns” may seem like the simplest answer, and when appraising the surplus a figure like Walter has been able to extract in a single year from the Lakers, it’s hard not to feel that’s also the best answer..Others have speculated that the rich guys’ (and it is almost always a guy stumping up the cash) newfound interest in sport is a bid for cultural relevance, a cry for attention and perhaps even love amid the vexed politics of extreme wealth in an age of populist rage. No doubt there’s some truth to that, too. But the typical sports investor of the future probably looks more like Josh Kushner than Elon Musk or Jeff Bezos/ But to the Kushners of the world, what the Lakers are, above all, is a hedge. The old NBA of Jerry Buss was about making money, building dynasties, giving the fans a good time, and injecting sport with a slick of Hollywood glamor. The new NBA of Josh Kushner is about saving investor-owners’ bank balances from the consequences of their own poor decisions. Everything else in sport now is secondary to the basic imperative of investor enrichment and protection. Once the Lakers were Showtime; now they are Insurance Time.
  15. I am excited to see him back. Just need to tape his ankles before every game. Back in the day, taping ankles was required before every Chicago Public League HS football game I played in in order to minimize ankle injuries. Not sure if that was City-wide or only my HS. Teel probably should also use the fancy knee braces that 2023 got for his son. Precautionary measures given the history of injuries.
  16. tray replied to Whisox05's topic in Pale Hose Talk
    Like Mets fans?
  17. Colson has heard all of the advice from those with major league credentials but from this fan's perspective, it looks like Colson keeps falling victim at the plate to the same pitches/pitching patterns. If he gets hot though, he can carry this team.
  18. I went to the last home game with two other couples, inc a former Chicago Policeman, his wife and a few friends in one guys' Wagoneer. They heartily laughed when I asked if any of them or their kids would ever consider taking a train to anywhere downtown, especially at night. Hey, I won't be around to see what thet fellow wants to build but as I told my friends, I hate to see some guy from Detroit do what he proposes doing. It's pretty sad, but oh well.
  19. I wish they could add more than one pitcher because ideally, I would like to see Noah get another chance. I know his last appearance was awful, but I see his potential and hate to see it go to waste. Realistically, I know he had his chances, but that last appearance where Venable screwed up by making a second visit to the mound still bothers me. I know he was in trouble, but what a sh1tty way of betting removed from a game and then being demoted.
  20. You mean like Ken Griffey, Jr. ? 😂
  21. tray replied to Whisox05's topic in Pale Hose Talk
    The deadline for a player qualifying to be on the play-off roster expires today or tomorrow. IMO, hard pass on Robert Jr. If Kenny Williams was GM he would add any big name player and tell the boss it was worth the price, referencing KW signing the other Jr. late in the season for his own foolish, self-serving reasons.
  22. Short answer is no. A player has to be on the 40-man roster or 60-day injured list as of August 31 at 11:59 p.m. ET in order to be eligible for the postseason. (paraphrased from a Google search on this issue).

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