16 minutes ago, Balta1701 said:

At the very least, for something like “an international draft”, this is novel enough that the union should have had text weeks ago. That’s the kind of thing that is likely to need refinement for both sides to agree.

I’m certain both sides have models for a proposed international draft ready to go and simply need to be refined based on proposed assumptions.  Should they have a couple of days to work through in a perfect world?  Probably, but it doesn’t take weeks.

10 minutes ago, ptatc said:

No. The salaries in the minor leagues are all the same for a team. It's the bonus that the international players negotiate.

It does benefit the owners because it would probably a controlled bonus amount like the US draft.

That's the current deal. Aren't they negotiating a new deal? 

6 minutes ago, Texsox said:

Everyone should be a free agent allowed to negotiate with any team. 

Why?

2 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

Why?

Because it brings so much parity to sports like college football...not

Interesting thread.

 

Yeah drafts are good, because they are fun.

Wouldnt following international markets be more fun if we knew of these guys before a draft and then saw who are team picked, instead of getting a list of the top thirty players in January that all already have handshake agreements in place with the teams?

Of course it would. 
 

We should also ban trades. Just make a really miserable sport to follow.

Good for the players like Ortiz. Use your clout to make sure the academy’s have a softer landing from the unwinding of this horrendous system that allowed them to profit on the backs of children.

Won’t somebody please think of the buscones?

The players should accept the intl draft. In five years, they’ll be glad they did. Enough is enough with that gross system.

26 minutes ago, Texsox said:

Everyone should be a free agent allowed to negotiate with any team. 

This would be problematic for a lot of reasons. 

25 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

I’m certain both sides have models for a proposed international draft ready to go and simply need to be refined based on proposed assumptions.  Should they have a couple of days to work through in a perfect world?  Probably, but it doesn’t take weeks.

You can also agree in principal to the cba and the concept of the international draft and set parameters within to finalize the nitty gritty over the next few weeks.

2 minutes ago, flavum said:

The players should accept the intl draft. In five years, they’ll be glad they did. Enough is enough with that gross system.

Players are just using it as a chip. They really don't care they just want to act like they care about the draft. CBT, bonus pool, minimum salary are much bigger priorities. The MLBPA has typically had no issue bargaining away the rights of the players that are not yet in the union. 

12 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

Interesting thread.

 

Who gives a shit what this cheater thinks. Very few players I'm more tired from hearing from than Ortiz. Shame he has such an impact on DR players. 

Just now, raBBit said:

Players are just using it as a chip. They really don't care they just want to act like they care about the draft. CBT, bonus pool, minimum salary are much bigger priorities. The MLBPA has typically had no issue bargaining away the rights of the players that are not yet in the union. 

Yep. I expect the union to use this to get some more money for prearb pool and/or MLBs agreement that prearb pool money won't count against CBT and maybe a bit more cash for min salary players.

When is other Tatis sibling ready to turn 16 years old? The draft wouldn't be implemented until 2024. Would we be able to get him locked in the next two signing periods?

16 minutes ago, raBBit said:

Players are just using it as a chip. They really don't care they just want to act like they care about the draft. CBT, bonus pool, minimum salary are much bigger priorities. The MLBPA has typically had no issue bargaining away the rights of the players that are not yet in the union. 

Ok, so they should just say, "Hey MLB, we really don't want an international draft.  But if you raise the pre-arb pool to $55/$60 million, then you can keep the international draft."

(Yes, I do realize it's not that simple)

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46 minutes ago, Texsox said:

That's the current deal. Aren't they negotiating a new deal? 

Not for salaries. As far as I've seen anyway. The salaries will be constant for the individual teams even if they go up. It's the bonuses that are under discussion with the draft.

Sounds to me like Ortiz might have some personal connections or interests in the whole buscones business. 

 

54 minutes ago, Texsox said:

Everyone should be a free agent allowed to negotiate with any team. 

That turns into teams with the most money wins. The Dodgers would be the the Yankees of the 20's and 30s winning all the time because they bought the other teams players. As long as you don't mind the NY, LA teams winning everything every year, you can have it.

Talk about pure capitalism at its best or worst depending on your view.

Good thread

 

 

30 minutes ago, PolishPrince34 said:

When is other Tatis sibling ready to turn 16 years old? The draft wouldn't be implemented until 2024. Would we be able to get him locked in the next two signing periods?

I believe so.

25 minutes ago, Tnetennba said:

 

Thinking more about this, is this where the urgency from the owners is coming from, or is it something more deleterious?  Last real chance to get 162 in and get their expanded postseason?

1 hour ago, Texsox said:

Everyone should be a free agent allowed to negotiate with any team. 

Where did you read that?

How quickly will activity begin once a CBA is agreed to?  Could we have transactions as soon as tonight or is that optimistic?