The Kids Can Play Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 59 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: KW will definitely be allowed the dignity of walking out on his own terms at the conclusion of this year, at least from all indications. If Kenny Williams had any dignity, he would back up his comments that there is accountability in the Sox front office. He told reporters a few months ago, "Accountability is not a problem around here." If that's the case why is Rick Hahn still the GM? The fact is, Kenny probably can't fire Hahn because the POS owner won't allow it. If that is the case, then so be it and it sucks. However I don't appreciate KW tooting his ego and bravado claiming there is all this accountability in the Sox organization. The fact is, the Sox FO has the least amount of accountability in probably all 30 ML teams. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baseball_gal_aly Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 (edited) Edited June 14, 2023 by baseballgalaly 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofaRoache Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 Let's not forget Hahn drafted Madrigal and Vaughn with top 4 picks after tanking seasons. We are cursed folks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 The Oakland A's field a AAA team (0.3 net fWAR through yesterday) and won their 7th straight win tonight, all against winning teams. The drew over 27,000 on the day Nevada sleeze-ball politicians handed out $380M plus to a billionaire. The Sox outdrew this number three times this season. In a decade of Hahn, the Sox have two seven game win streaks, none beyond. Fire Rick Hahn. Seven Plus Win Streaks in the Rick Hahn Era: 2023: None (5 Longest) 2022: None (6 Longest) 2021: None (6 Longest) 2020: One Seven Game Streak (August 16-22) 2019: None (5 Longest) 2018: None (4 Longest) 2017: None (6 Longest) 2016: None (6 Longest) 2015: One Seven Game Streak (July 23-29) 2014: None (4 Longest) 2013: None (6 Longest) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 1 hour ago, baseballgalaly said: MLB is a 10 BILLION dollar a year business and they are pulling this s%*# under Manfred. LOL. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 2 hours ago, Lip Man 1 said: MLB is a 10 BILLION dollar a year business and they are pulling this s%*# under Manfred. LOL. This was already out there 4-6 weeks ago....about baseball ops expecting complete or major cutbacks heading into the offseason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4uckOffCommieScum Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 That’s unbelievable the A’s got 27k at a game. No way I’d buy a ticket if I were an A’s fan right now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 10 minutes ago, FourEyesShottenhoffer said: That’s unbelievable the A’s got 27k at a game. No way I’d buy a ticket if I were an A’s fan right now It was a planned boycott. They’ll be back to nothing next game. Royals are now worse than the A’s. Quatraro and Grifol are probably bad at this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 23 minutes ago, FourEyesShottenhoffer said: That’s unbelievable the A’s got 27k at a game. No way I’d buy a ticket if I were an A’s fan right now Yeah, this was a specifically planned "f*** you for blaming fan turnout" game. They also changed "sell the team" so loudly the Rays pitcher couldn't hear his pitchcom. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 Kenny please retire. Promote Rick. Hire someone from outside the organization. It's the White Sox Way™ Start selling this season. Look for a 2028 playoff appearance. Sorry JR but you may never see another post season win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 With Fegan gone, down to Scott Merkin for Sox Tweets. Everyone who loves to jump on Sox players without knowing their full health status (Tim, Yoan, Yasmani, Luis), we can add Liam to the mix of gross misconduct when it comes to White Sox management of injuries the past three seasons. So basically Liam was injured before he even started his truncated post Cancer Recovery rehab, the Sox did nothing, either told him to pitch through his barking arm, or Liam said nothing and pitched injured until he couldn't make a fist or hold a baseball which happened last Friday. Sox could clearly see his velocity was down this entire time. Rushed rehab, no MRI examinations until yesterday. Boyer and Hahn rushed Liam back for a few weeks of PR fluff pieces and pawning a few tickets. Fire Rick Hahn and Brooks Boyer, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 10 minutes ago, South Side Hit Men said: With Fegan gone, down to Scott Merkin for Sox Tweets. Everyone who loves to jump on Sox players without knowing their full health status (Tim, Yoan, Yasmani, Luis), we can add Liam to the mix of gross misconduct when it comes to White Sox management of injuries the past three seasons. So basically Liam was injured before he even started his truncated post Cancer Recovery rehab, the Sox did nothing, either told him to pitch through his barking arm, or Liam said nothing and pitched injured until he couldn't make a fist or hold a baseball which happened last Friday. Sox could clearly see his velocity was down this entire time. Rushed rehab, no MRI examinations until yesterday. Boyer and Hahn rushed Liam back for a few weeks of PR fluff pieces and pawning a few tickets. Fire Rick Hahn and Brooks Boyer, Ultimately, the White Sox are better off financially pocketing insurance payments for Hendriks rather than him on the active roster for a dead team walking. Unfortunately, nobody has a recording of someone in the front office actually uttering words to that effect. And coming up next, MLB announcements about how more accountants/bean counters per organization will be embraced, while NASA rocket scientists and theoretical physicists will be pushed out. One thing's for certain, the Hendriks Comeback Story took a lot of the attention away from that 10 game losing streak and 14-29 mark or whatever the low point was this season...for a week or two, there was even talk of getting back into the AL Central Division race and scoreboard watching and being just 2 1/2 or 3 1/2 games back or whatever. Right now, the Sox are staring 6 1/2 game back and climbing towards 9-10 again. Then ALL the talk will shift towards which players are left standing on the roster after July 31st. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 1 hour ago, caulfield12 said: Ultimately, the White Sox are better off financially pocketing insurance payments for Hendriks rather than him on the active roster for a dead team walking. Unfortunately, nobody has a recording of someone in the front office actually uttering words to that effect. Do you have any evidence the team has insurance, or was even able to get insurance, on Liam Hendriks? He's had the UCL issue for a long time, so this injury is not covered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 16 minutes ago, South Side Hit Men said: Do you have any evidence the team has insurance, or was even able to get insurance, on Liam Hendriks? He's had the UCL issue for a long time, so this injury is not covered. We never have access to this information as fans, unless the team specifically wants fans to know about it, like with the David Wells situation in 2001 where the team was getting somewhere between 60-75% on the dollar back. Lloyd's of London was one of the major insurers back then for athletes...not sure how that's evolved since back at that time, with the abundance of $150-350 million-ish contracts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 15 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: We never have access to this information as fans, unless the team specifically wants fans to know about it, like with the David Wells situation in 2001 where the team was getting somewhere between 60-75% on the dollar back. Lloyd's of London was one of the major insurers back then for athletes...not sure how that's evolved since back at that time, with the abundance of $150-350 million-ish contracts. Nobody was covering his already inured UCL, so all future time off is not insurable. Perhaps the several cancer weeks were insured, if they were than it was even more stupid to rush him back, not check his MRI with the low velocity rushed rehab. And for that, Hahn's fired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 1 hour ago, South Side Hit Men said: Nobody was covering his already inured UCL, so all future time off is not insurable. Perhaps the several cancer weeks were insured, if they were than it was even more stupid to rush him back, not check his MRI with the low velocity rushed rehab. And for that, Hahn's fired. EVERY single White Sox fans watching his AAA outings and White Sox outings could tell he wasn't right. Someone had to have overruled all those standing in Liam's way from returning on an expedited timetable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 5 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: EVERY single White Sox fans watching his AAA outings and White Sox outings could tell he wasn't right. Someone had to have overruled all those standing in Liam's way from returning on an expedited timetable. Jerry, Kenny and or Hahn are the lone three who have any decision making ability in this organization before or after Tony La Russa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 2023 series wins against winning teams through mid-June: 2-1 vs. Minnesota 17-12 (May 2-4) 2-1 at New York A. L. 36-25 (June 6-8) Fire Rick Hahn! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 (edited) The White Sox have a 2.5% of making the playoffs per Baseball Prospectus, in the middle of Rick Hahn’s self-proclaimed multi-championship window. https://www.baseballprospectus.com/standings/ If their 76 win projection comes to fruition, Rick Hahn will have completed his 11th season with a single 82+ win ball club. Fire Rick Hahn. Edited June 16, 2023 by South Side Hit Men Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highland Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 If you exclude the 10-game losing streak, the Sox are 111-111 since the beginning of the 2022 season. Perhaps .500 is okay as far as JR is concerned. But we fans can't really expect any kind of real contention. Action needs to be taken but it won't. And I don't even know if firing Hahn would do any real good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 Bump. It's been over 30 hours. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 Rick still needs to go. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shago Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 3 hours ago, Dick Allen said: Rick still needs to go. Rick needs to be walked naked through the streets of Chicago with someone ringing the 'shame' bell behind him 🔔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 15 minutes ago, shago said: Rick needs to be walked naked through the streets of Chicago with someone ringing the 'shame' bell behind him 🔔 As a person who has been demanding Hahn be tarred and feathered and paraded through the south suburbs since 2016, I am rather content to see others coming into agreement with this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 Today is press conference day, right? I look forward to the succor from his words of wisdom. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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