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Pedro Grifol named White Sox manager; Katz asked to return per Rosey

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  • Matt Spiegel is reporting that Joe McEwing and Darryl Boston are both gone. Sounds like Katz and Hasler are the only coaches returning. 

  • Gone. There will be a new hitting coach. 

  • Are people really disliking this guy already, or are they just serial complainers? He’s a qualified manager who has been on a winning staff. I’m sold he’s going to be better than what we’ve had since

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So the very successful Kansas City’s Royals bench coach who didn’t even get their open manager position. Great. 

I’ve seen Montoyo make some monumental blunders as manager. I dunno. 

Man today is a good day.

it’s been a long time since I’ve felt good about my team. A dark cloud formed above this team the minute they named TLR manager. And they didn’t replace him with someone who has ties to the organization. Now he’s gone and today is a new day and it feels so damn good to have my optimism back. Let’s go White Sox. 

19 minutes ago, White Sox Park said:

At this point i'm just glad that LaRussa is gone, and that it's not Guillén . wonder how different things might have been, if Grifol had started the 2022 season.

I don't know, you'd still have a very flawed roster.

2 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

Hell he could not be Jesus enough for KC. They are in their own world. 

That was Dayton Moore's schtick wasn't it?

1 minute ago, Iwritecode said:

I wasn't making much more than that just a few years ago when I was working in Chicago.

I got offered that in Chicago about 10 years ago as someone fresh out of college. I'd imagine the pay is way better now. I was more or less referring working on the west coast (Bay Area/Seattle) where starting salaries out there are easily 100k+. Chicago is cheaper, but 65k is still low even when you factor in cost of living. 

Can he convince Yoan to get on a diet?

27 minutes ago, Heads22 said:

 

So it did come down to money.

2 minutes ago, chw42 said:

Moncada and Grandal were the biggest problems last year. They put together maybe 1 WAR last year when the projections expected 7-8 out of them. That's a 7 win difference alone right there. 

By baseball-reference they were actually -0.5 WAR together. However, it's not all that surprising for a catcher at age 33 to drop off fairly substantially though - there's a reason why Grandal didn't immediately get a long term contract when he left the Dodgers. There is a solid chance that he is just physically done, that his legs can't drive the power he once had after years of catching. 

Who knows what happened to Moncada though. Attitude, injury, long COVID, frankly I don't know.

35 minutes ago, mqr said:

Seeing people saying it's a bad sign that the royals passed on him, but, uh, why would a new GM want to hire in house when you're taking over a dumpster fire

Also, said GM in KC already had a connection with Quantril. 

He's under 50. That's a win in itself.

1 minute ago, MiddleCoastBias said:

Interview from last year. At 5:40, he's asked about the Royals' identity and success with bunting.

His reply - "at the end of the day, your team has to hit homers. You have to put the ball in the seats to win games. You need that timely 3-run HR."

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/episode-7-pedro-grifol-kansas-city-royals-bench-coach/id1561838258?i=1000522536832

 

 

Ok, now I'm in. Thanks for sharing

2 minutes ago, MiddleCoastBias said:

Interview from last year. At 5:40, he's asked about the Royals' identity and success with bunting.

His reply - "at the end of the day, your team has to hit homers. You have to put the ball in the seats to win games. You need that timely 3-run HR."

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/episode-7-pedro-grifol-kansas-city-royals-bench-coach/id1561838258?i=1000522536832

 

 

He had me at homers

1 minute ago, SoxAce said:

He's under 50. That's a win in itself.

He’s 53 later this month

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4 minutes ago, fathom said:

Go back and watch Giolito on the Chris Rose podcast last week.  It’s embarrassing to hear how complacent the team was.

That's a leadership problem, but these guys are adults.  Even adults need a swift kick in the ass at times.  They didn't get that from TLR.  They got coddled and were told not to hustle.

1 minute ago, SoxAce said:

He's under 50. That's a win in itself.

Wrong again :)

They needed to hire someone from the outside with some fresh new ideas and they did that. This is a good hire.

7 minutes ago, chw42 said:

Moncada and Grandal were the biggest problems last year. They put together maybe 1 WAR last year when the projections expected 7-8 out of them. That's a 7 win difference alone right there. 

The combined for -.5 WAR.

3 minutes ago, MiddleCoastBias said:

Interview from last year. At 5:40, he's asked about the Royals' identity and success with bunting.

His reply - "at the end of the day, your team has to hit homers. You have to put the ball in the seats to win games. You need that timely 3-run HR."

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/episode-7-pedro-grifol-kansas-city-royals-bench-coach/id1561838258?i=1000522536832

 

 

Don't know how you can read about him and listen to him and NOT think he's the best candidate on the surface.

1 minute ago, Bob Sacamano said:

The combined for -.5 WAR.

FanGraphs had them at half a WAR. Either way, absolutely awful. 

1 minute ago, flavum said:

He’s 53 later this month

Meh.. still a baby compared to TLR.

Just now, chw42 said:

FanGraphs had them at half a WAR. Either way, absolutely awful. 

Thanks. I just quickly checked Baseball Ref.

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