Snopek Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 2 hours ago, Dick Allen said: Apparently Hahn went after Jesse Rogers for writing this article. The funny thing was Middleton was in the stadium and he avoided him. Hell yeah Rick, you go get that reporter and hold him accountable (for doing his job?). This guy is the absolute worst. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 18 minutes ago, TaylorStSox said: Bridgeport is thriving and becoming the next hip neighborhood in the city. It would be insane to move the team. Just put a good team on the field and the rest will take care of itself. Too much work and things left to chance. Injuries, affairs, it's just too hard to guarantee a good team. Easier to move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulie4Pres Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 17 hours ago, Texsox said: Too much work and things left to chance. Injuries, affairs, it's just too hard to guarantee a good team. Easier to move. Easier to move? Lol. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 2 hours ago, Paulie4Pres said: Easier to move? Lol. The villagers are coming at you with pitch forks and torches after decades of you pissing them off. They want blood. Empty promises of we'll do better in the future just ain't fooling them any more. Do you run and make new friends in another town or do you do the things the villagers want you to do. Fire all your employees and sell the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 Merkin interviewing Hendriks on clubhouse/chemistry “You have 26 guys in the clubhouse, and let’s be honest, athletes tend to have some egos,” Hendriks said. “You’ve got 26 guys with somewhat inflated egos, myself included, and you’re always going to butt heads. I have different philosophical views on the ways a clubhouse should be than other guys. I like to maintain positivity and harping on the good things rather than the negative things, and some people are the other way. “No way is wrong and no way is right. It just matters that you mesh together. We had some butting of heads that no one was willing to back down, no one was willing to concede. No one was willing to do that. “That there really causes a rift,” Hendriks added. “Now, hopefully we can take the egos aside and we can get to a point where we’re pushing for next year and we can get the right frame of mind, the right views on the way things should be run and everybody is going to concede at some point, everyone is going to make a compromise.” 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 Actually, Rick, I will contend that there actually is a wrong way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominikk85 Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 I think it is good that it came out. Doesn't help for this season of course but the season is lost anyway and this means that the sox leadership will be forced to do something about it instead of ignoring it. Maybe it means they can have a fresh start next year with less anarchy in the clubhouse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chimpton Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 18 minutes ago, Dominikk85 said: I think it is good that it came out. Doesn't help for this season of course but the season is lost anyway and this means that the sox leadership will be forced to do something about it instead of ignoring it. Maybe it means they can have a fresh start next year with less anarchy in the clubhouse. Only if they have a stronger manager and the players who are causing the present poor culture are willing to change or are no longer at the club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominikk85 Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 1 hour ago, Chimpton said: Only if they have a stronger manager and the players who are causing the present poor culture are willing to change or are no longer at the club. They could hire a new manager. Maybe something in between a rookie and a geriatric is available:) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 (edited) "You can’t have good clubhouse chemistry with self-serving players like Lance Lynn, Joe Kelly and Kendall Graveman backstabbing their teammates along the way and pretending they weren’t part of the problem. If any of the current Sox pitchers still revere their former teammates, perhaps the clubhouse chemistry is doomed to fail again in ’24." - Paul Sullivan Chicago Tribune 8/16 Sounds like there is more to this situation than has become public Edited August 16, 2023 by Lip Man 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 1 minute ago, Lip Man 1 said: "You can’t have good clubhouse chemistry with self-serving players like Lance Lynn, Joe Kelly and Kendall Graveman backstabbing their teammates along the way and pretending they weren’t part of the problem. If any of the current Sox pitchers still revere their former teammates, perhaps the clubhouse chemistry is doomed to fail again in ’24." - Paul Sullivan Chicago Tribune 8/16 Sounds like there is more to this situation than his become public Yeah, I'd like to reiterate that I don't have a real problem with Keynan as a league minimum signing that walked into a dumpster fire. Lance Lynn as a veteran brought on as a clubhouse leader - who they traded a legitimate prospect for - can go f*** himself. Doesn't absolve the Sox, but Lynn's whole "we were arguing about steak" thing now reeks of bullshit. Great example for younger players! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeC Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 7 hours ago, Dominikk85 said: They could hire a new manager. Maybe something in between a rookie and a geriatric is available:) A geriatric rookie would be so on-brand for this org. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 12 minutes ago, Lip Man 1 said: "You can’t have good clubhouse chemistry with self-serving players like Lance Lynn, Joe Kelly and Kendall Graveman backstabbing their teammates along the way and pretending they weren’t part of the problem. If any of the current Sox pitchers still revere their former teammates, perhaps the clubhouse chemistry is doomed to fail again in ’24." - Paul Sullivan Chicago Tribune 8/16 Sounds like there is more to this situation than his become public I thought we were supposed to love Joe Kelly? Anyway, this sounds like blaming the people who aren't here because they're convenient targets. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PorkChopExpress Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 31 minutes ago, Lip Man 1 said: "You can’t have good clubhouse chemistry with self-serving players like Lance Lynn, Joe Kelly and Kendall Graveman backstabbing their teammates along the way and pretending they weren’t part of the problem. If any of the current Sox pitchers still revere their former teammates, perhaps the clubhouse chemistry is doomed to fail again in ’24." - Paul Sullivan Chicago Tribune 8/16 Sounds like there is more to this situation than his become public Is there more context in the full story as to what Paul Sullivan is referring to, i.e., specific circumstances in which those guys "backstabbed" their teammates while on the Sox, or is he just speculating and finger-pointing at the now-departed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 Guys are losing and fighting with each other. Would we be happier if they were losing while being happy and enjoying themselves? Maybe they should be pissed off and hard to be around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sockin Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 9 hours ago, PorkChopExpress said: Is there more context in the full story as to what Paul Sullivan is referring to, i.e., specific circumstances in which those guys "backstabbed" their teammates while on the Sox, or is he just speculating and finger-pointing at the now-departed? It would not surprise me at all if the Sox fed him this. Their new agenda is putting blame on the players who were traded for everything that went wrong instead of blaming themselves. Something that they're completely incapable of doing. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominikk85 Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 Do you think that this was what got Williams and Hahn fired? Obviously is was a bad season but reinsdorf had endured bad seasons before without firing people? I wonder if that leak which kinda embarrassed the organisation by portraying it as a "no culture, everyone does what he wants" org was the final straw that lead to the firing. JR might be the type of guy who would have gladly helped covering that up and sweeping it under the rug acting like nothing happened but when it came out it really embarrassed his org which might be more important to Jerry than actually having a functional org. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted August 24, 2023 Share Posted August 24, 2023 I am loving the fact the New York Yankees are now 6-15 in August, or 1 1/2 games worse than the Sox's 7-13 record through Wednesday. As you were. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted August 24, 2023 Share Posted August 24, 2023 On 8/23/2023 at 7:34 AM, Dominikk85 said: Do you think that this was what got Williams and Hahn fired? Obviously is was a bad season but reinsdorf had endured bad seasons before without firing people? I wonder if that leak which kinda embarrassed the organisation by portraying it as a "no culture, everyone does what he wants" org was the final straw that lead to the firing. JR might be the type of guy who would have gladly helped covering that up and sweeping it under the rug acting like nothing happened but when it came out it really embarrassed his org which might be more important to Jerry than actually having a functional org. I think it was one of many straws that fell in the same month Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted August 24, 2023 Share Posted August 24, 2023 Ultimate flex by a new GM would be signing Keynan Middleton. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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