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1 hour ago, kba said:

The Phillies, Mets, and Rangers, but they're all trying to build entertainment districts on their parking lots. 

l can think of a few parks that aren't necessarily surrounded by parking lots, but still aren't really walkable to a downtown or to an entertainment district - Miami, Toronto, Yankee Stadium. Houston used to be like that, but it looks like that part of downtown has grown up since I was there last.

Yeah, I had thought about including Yankee Stadium.  The thing about the Dodgers and Yankees, though, is that these are two of the most elite franchises in MLB who are the #1 team in mega metropolises of nearly 20M.  They can get along fine without an entertainment district due to brand prestige and market size.  They must still be making a ton of $$ on their RSNs.

Good point about Miami.  But they're the poorest drawing team this year by far that wasn't playing in a minor league stadium.  Not exactly a ballpark location success story.  Of all the post-Camden ballparks, is there a bigger flop than Marlins Park?  Yeah, there was Turner Field (location) and The Ballpark at Arlington (no roof in the Texas heat) that didn't last, but those teams have successfully moved on to new ballparks.  The Marlins franchise seems screwed.  I'm not sure what their path is out of their mess.   

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On 10/9/2025 at 7:25 PM, 77 Hitmen said:

Yeah, I had thought about including Yankee Stadium.  The thing about the Dodgers and Yankees, though, is that these are two of the most elite franchises in MLB who are the #1 team in mega metropolises of nearly 20M.  They can get along fine without an entertainment district due to brand prestige and market size.  They must still be making a ton of $$ on their RSNs.

Good point about Miami.  But they're the poorest drawing team this year by far that wasn't playing in a minor league stadium.  Not exactly a ballpark location success story.  Of all the post-Camden ballparks, is there a bigger flop than Marlins Park?  Yeah, there was Turner Field (location) and The Ballpark at Arlington (no roof in the Texas heat) that didn't last, but those teams have successfully moved on to new ballparks.  The Marlins franchise seems screwed.  I'm not sure what their path is out of their mess.   

It was a huge mistake building the new Marlins park at its location, way too far south from the fan base, a better place would have been in the Fort Lauderdale area. The Rays have the same problem with the Trop, it’s also way too far south from the fan base, the new owner realizes that and look for a new Rays stadium to be built near downtown Tampa.

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On 10/9/2025 at 4:59 PM, kba said:

The Phillies, Mets, and Rangers, but they're all trying to build entertainment districts on their parking lots. 

l can think of a few parks that aren't necessarily surrounded by parking lots, but still aren't really walkable to a downtown or to an entertainment district - Miami, Toronto, Yankee Stadium. Houston used to be like that, but it looks like that part of downtown has grown up since I was there last.

Was just at the Rangers park in July for a wrestling show and they have literally the same ballpark village setup as the Cardinals.

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9 hours ago, 77 Hitmen said:

The Browns and the city of Cleveland have reached a deal to settle their legal dispute regarding the team's plan to build a domed stadium in suburban Brook Park.  The team will pay the city $100M as part of the deal.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/46585926/haslams-cleveland-reach-deal-move-browns-brook-park

 

I know I’m going full meatball here, but boooo to domed stadiums, especially in football!

I love when stadiums play a role in the personality and character of a team.

Domes just lack any character and are basically interchangeable sterile basements.

Also, it’s nice being able to “feel” a day game vs a night game.

Oh, and also, snow games rule.

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1 hour ago, Snopek said:

I know I’m going full meatball here, but boooo to domed stadiums, especially in football!

I love when stadiums play a role in the personality and character of a team.

Domes just lack any character and are basically interchangeable sterile basements.

Also, it’s nice being able to “feel” a day game vs a night game.

Oh, and also, snow games rule.

SoFi, Mercedes-Benz, ATT&T, US Bank, Allegiant all have plenty of personality/character and far from being sterile. 

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Story in the Tribune today as a lawmaker introduces bill that could hinder Bears options.

The legislation from state Rep. Kam Buckner of Chicago — a former University of Illinois football player who represents the district where Soldier Field is located — calls for greater transparency around stadium deals in Illinois and could require the team to dig deeper into its pockets. It remains silent, however, about major financial issues, including whether the franchise would have to pay off outstanding debt for the 2003 Soldier Field renovation, a point some opponents of the team’s move have said is a bare minimum for their support.

Gov. JB Pritzker said last month the team needs “to pay off what’s owed on the existing stadium,” Soldier Field, as a prerequisite for additional help from the state. He has previously said the state could help with infrastructure surrounding a stadium but has been hesitant to promise public dollars to subsidize the privately owned team.

https://www.chicagotribune.com/2025/10/14/illinois-lawmaker-introduces-bill-that-could-hinder-chicago-bears-move-to-suburb-as-legislative-session-begins/

 

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4 hours ago, Rocky said:

SoFi, Mercedes-Benz, ATT&T, US Bank, Allegiant all have plenty of personality/character and far from being sterile. 

Actually I do like US Bank a lot, but I think the rest are blander than the average outdoor stadium.

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6 hours ago, Snopek said:

I know I’m going full meatball here, but boooo to domed stadiums, especially in football!

I love when stadiums play a role in the personality and character of a team.

Domes just lack any character and are basically interchangeable sterile basements.

Also, it’s nice being able to “feel” a day game vs a night game.

Oh, and also, snow games rule.

The Bills are going all in on "snow games" - their new $2B new stadium will be outdoors.  But about 2/3 of the seats will be covered by a canopy and it'll have a heated playing surface.   On the other hand, the Broncos intend to have a retractable roof for their new stadium.   The Bills are the outlier in the wave of new NFL stadiums.  After spending close to $2B, most teams and cities want a facility that can be used year-round for events even in the dead of winter.

I like how the stadiums in Arizona and Vegas have natural grass because they have a system that rolls the playing surface outside so that grass can grow.  If the Bears do indeed build a domed stadium in Arlington Heights, it would be nice if it had that kind of playing surface arrangement.  

It looks like US Bank in MN conveys some of that "day game" feel thanks to its glass roof.  However, based on what I've seen on TV, Allegiant Stadium in Vegas has a roof that's more opaque translucent as if it were a completely cloudy day outside.  Perhaps that's to block out more of the intense Nevada sunlight?

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I've noticed that this subject has over 141,000 views. I wonder if thats a record on this site. Obviously White Sox fans are interested in the   thought  of  a new stadium.

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10 minutes ago, WBWSF said:

I've noticed that this subject has over 141,000 views. I wonder if thats a record on this site. Obviously White Sox fans are interested in the   thought  of  a new stadium.

No, it’s not a record.  The Eric Chavez thread probably destroys this 

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4 hours ago, WBWSF said:

I've noticed that this subject has over 141,000 views. I wonder if thats a record on this site. Obviously White Sox fans are interested in the   thought  of  a new stadium.

Filibuster has a 3.2mil and 1.8mil thread.

Cease thread 838k, Quintana 626k

The original thread talking about new stadium has 303k but this one has become the de facto new one.

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15 hours ago, Kyyle23 said:

No, it’s not a record.  The Eric Chavez thread probably destroys this 

Wow. There's a name I haven't heard in a long time. I just looked him up, I can't believe he played all the way until 2014. I would have guessed until pre-2010 for sure.

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1 hour ago, Bob Sacamano said:

Wow. There's a name I haven't heard in a long time. I just looked him up, I can't believe he played all the way until 2014. I would have guessed until pre-2010 for sure.

That Chavez thread I’m referring to was started because we didn’t think Crede would be healthy, lol

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10 minutes ago, Kyyle23 said:

That Chavez thread I’m referring to was started because we didn’t think Crede would be healthy, lol

I found this one, but it must be the wrong one.  However, it states what one of the trade rumors was — Crede and prospects for Chavez.

 

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3 hours ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

I found this one, but it must be the wrong one.  However, it states what one of the trade rumors was — Crede and prospects for Chavez.

 

Yea the big one I believe was renamed chaveztalk lol

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Nothing really new in this article, but it provides a good summary of where the various Chicago sports teams stand in terms of quests for new stadiums or, in the case of the Blackhawks and Sky, new practice facilities.  

https://www.chicagotribune.com/2025/10/22/chicago-sports-stadiums-who-is-moving/

This comment from Danny Wirtz is noteworthy:

“We’re sitting on a lot of parking lots, right?” Wirtz said. “And we see parking has continued to decrease with other modes (of transportation) to get here. We’re absolutely thinking about what the future could look like.”

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I see them moving in a few years. Ishbia and his brother own the Nashville Soccer club. He is a graduate of Vanderbilt University and sits on its board. There has been no talk of a stadium situation in a while. I think this deal was done to facilitate a move. 

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