waltwilliams Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 (edited) Once again, the White Sox are contending with history, in a negative way. As we all know, there's a good chance that they'll lose 100 games for the third season in a row. This would tie them with six other teams in AL history who lost 100 games three seasons in a row. Only the expansion Washington Senators lost 100 games four seasons in a row in the AL. Here's the notorious consecutive 100-loss seasons in both the AL and NL: AL 4 Washington Senators 1961-64 3 St.Louis Browns 1910-12 3 Philadelphia A's 1919-21 3 Boston Red Sox 1925-27 3 Toronto Blue Jays 1977-79 3 Kansas City Royals 2004-06 3 Houston Astros 2011-13 NL 5 Philadelpha Phillies 1938-42 4 Boston Braves 1909-12 4 New York Mets 1962-65 3 Boston Braves 1922-24 3 Pittsburgh Pirates 1952-54 The Sox need at least a 31-34 record in the second half of the season to avoid being on this embarrassing list. Can they do it? Time will tell. Edited September 19 by waltwilliams 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 Here's another one to track: Most losses in 2 seasons: Mets 231 1962-63 Most losses in 3 seasons: Mets 340 1962-64 Sox with 222 in 24/25. They set the 2 season record with 111 losses this season. They set the 3 season mark with 119. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 12 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Here's another one to track: Most losses in 2 seasons: Mets 231 1962-63 Most losses in 3 seasons: Mets 240 1962-64 Sox with 222 in 24/25. They set the 2 season record with 111 losses this season. They set the 3 season mark with 119. is the second number supposed to be 340? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 9 minutes ago, bmags said: is the second number supposed to be 340? Yes, will edit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Mite Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 (edited) This is all so embarrassing and all because of the worst owner in baseball, does this jerk have any shame at all. Edited July 16 by The Mighty Mite 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waltwilliams Posted July 16 Author Share Posted July 16 One positive note -- most of the modern era teams on this list would turn it around in a 10-year period. The Mets would make it to the World Series (and win it) within four years of their 1965 100 loss season. The Blue Jays would become a perennial AL East power by 1983, eventually winning the WS in 1992 and 1993. And the Dayton Moore Royals would become make it to two consecutive World Series eight years after their 2006 100 loss season. Even the 50s Pirates would turn it around (under Branch Rickey), making it to the WS in 1960. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 39 minutes ago, The Mighty Mite said: This is all so embarrassing and all because of the worst owner in baseball, does this jerk have any shame at all. His ego won't allow him to admit his way simply hasn't worked for a long time and he's laughing all the way to the bank anyway. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WBWSF Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 1 hour ago, The Mighty Mite said: This is all so embarrassing and all because of the worst owner in baseball, does this jerk have any shame at all. Obviously it doesn't bother JR one bit. The team lost 121 games last season and did nothing this past off season to improve the team. This present team has a dreadful record in one run games. All that needed to be done was to acquire a couple of hitters this past off season. I still think the game plan is to have the lowest payroll in MLB. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 1 hour ago, Lip Man 1 said: His ego won't allow him to admit his way simply hasn't worked for a long time and he's laughing all the way to the bank anyway. That is not true anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 9 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: That is not true anymore. He's raking it in with the Bulls and franchise value he's just too greedy to realize that a guaranteed profit every year isn't the end all be all of owning a team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBooneLoganEra Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 Getz is doing just fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 54 minutes ago, TheBooneLoganEra said: Getz is doing just fine. But can you tell me who has done a better job between Getz and David Stearns? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 3 hours ago, waltwilliams said: One positive note -- most of the modern era teams on this list would turn it around in a 10-year period. The Mets would make it to the World Series (and win it) within four years of their 1965 100 loss season. The Blue Jays would become a perennial AL East power by 1983, eventually winning the WS in 1992 and 1993. And the Dayton Moore Royals would become make it to two consecutive World Series eight years after their 2006 100 loss season. Even the 50s Pirates would turn it around (under Branch Rickey), making it to the WS in 1960. Meanwhile our only hope is that in 10 years JR isn’t running things any more. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydBannister1983 Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 8 hours ago, waltwilliams said: Once again, the White Sox are contending with history, in a negative way. As we all know, there's a good chance that they'll lose 100 games for the third season in a row. This would tie them with four other teams in AL history who lost 100 games three seasons in a row. Only the expansion Washington Senators lost 100 games four seasons in a row in the AL. Here's the notorious consecutive 100-loss seasons in both the AL and NL: AL 4 Washington Senators 1961-64 3 St.Louis Browns 1910-12 3 Philadelphia A's 1919-21 3 Boston Red Sox 1925-27 3 Toronto Blue Jays 1977-79 3 Kansas City Royals 2004-06 NL 5 Philadelpha Phillies 1938-42 4 Boston Braves 1909-12 4 New York Mets 1962-65 3 Boston Braves 1922-24 3 Pittsburgh Pirates 1952-54 The Sox need at least a 31-34 record in the second half of the season to avoid being on this embarrassing list. Can they do it? Time will tell. There is 100% probability they lose 100 this year. No way they go 31-34 the rest of the season. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 2 hours ago, FloydBannister1983 said: There is 100% probability they lose 100 this year. No way they go 31-34 the rest of the season. And they'll lose 100 games next season as well. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 Isn't the schedule much more difficult for the second half? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 18 hours ago, Lip Man 1 said: His ego won't allow him to admit his way simply hasn't worked for a long time and he's laughing all the way to the bank anyway. This is why you promote from within and the only qualification is "within". He doesn't want to hear free outside advice that he is doing it wrong. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 4 hours ago, caulfield12 said: Isn't the schedule much more difficult for the second half? Yes. They had it ranked as the third hardest in baseball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R U Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 They’re going to lose 100 next year too barring some unbelievable spending spree this offseason 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 19 hours ago, FloydBannister1983 said: There is 100% probability they lose 100 this year. No way they go 31-34 the rest of the season. I wouldn’t be surprised if they caught up to the Rockies after the deadline. We are in for an ugly second half. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy U Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 20 hours ago, Lip Man 1 said: Yes. They had it ranked as the third hardest in baseball. If you suck, you always have a hard schedule cuz you don’t get to play one of the worst teams, you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 1 hour ago, Timmy U said: If you suck, you always have a hard schedule cuz you don’t get to play one of the worst teams, you. It is interesting because Boston actually has the hardest remaining schedule, while Pittsburgh is in the top 5 for easiest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy U Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 1 hour ago, southsider2k5 said: It is interesting because Boston actually has the hardest remaining schedule, while Pittsburgh is in the top 5 for easiest. Cuz Boston already played the White Sox? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 (edited) 4 hours ago, southsider2k5 said: It is interesting because Boston actually has the hardest remaining schedule, while Pittsburgh is in the top 5 for easiest. I noted in another thread, but nearly 19% of the Sox first half games were played against 3 of the 4 worst offenses in baseball. Its why the raw pitching numbers dont look horrible while the advanced metrics do. Its going to be a bloodbath in the 2nd half. Edited July 18 by Look at Ray Ray Run 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 30 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: I noted in another thread, but nearly 19% of the Sox first half games were played against 3 of the 4 worst offenses in baseball. Its why the raw pitching numbers dont look horrible while the advanced metrics do. Its going to be a bloodbath in the 2nd half. Plus we will be subtracting a 3-5 pieces of this team and replacing them with god knows what. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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