Winter Meetings Dec. Trades FA Signings Thread

[chw42]

3 minutes ago, fathom said:

I’m shocked the Sox are considering Fairbanks.  He’s going to get more than we think.  If the Dodgers are looking to deal him, I’d take a chance on Tanner Scott if they throw in a lot of money.

Benintendi for Scott + cash, who says no? 

[Chicago White Sox]

7 minutes ago, fathom said:

I’m shocked the Sox are considering Fairbanks.  He’s going to get more than we think.  If the Dodgers are looking to deal him, I’d take a chance on Tanner Scott if they throw in a lot of money.

TB couldn’t traded him at a 1/$11M price tag…how much do you think he’s going to  get?

[Squirmin' for Yermin]

3 minutes ago, chw42 said:

Benintendi for Scott + cash, who says no? 

Dodgers. Scott at least a decent chance of being above average. Beni has 0 chance

[caulfield12]

11 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said:

Dodgers. Scott at least a decent chance of being above average. Beni has 0 chance

Friedman has no reason to be desperate to make a bad signing even worse.

He'll be perfectly fine as a high leverage reliever  like he was with Miami and SD.  Tanner's just not a closer for a high profile contender. It is what it is.

Same thing happened to Devin Williams in NY.

Fwiw Robert Suarez will be absolutely eviscerated in NY Boston Philly.

[CaliSoxFanViaSWside]

4 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said:

TB couldn’t traded him at a 1/$11M price tag…how much do you think he’s going to  get?

2/$15M is the only way the Sox get him, which is to say they wont get him. 

[caulfield12]

30 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

2/$15M is the only way the Sox get him, which is to say they wont get him. 

That's exactly what Steven Matz got to replace him.  He's a swingman now...but predominantly LHR for StL.

White Sox would have to pay roughly $16-18 million to Fairbanks.

Few teams will be willing to pay an aging Robert Suarez $23-25 million, so Fairbanks will have a plethora of suitors with E.Diaz now off the board.

Edited Wednesday at 01:16 AM by caulfield12

[Chicago White Sox]

34 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

2/$15M is the only way the Sox get him, which is to say they wont get him. 

Why?

[CaliSoxFanViaSWside]

5 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

Why?

My reasoning is that might be the most they offer and he'll get more according to most estimates. 

They got some arms coming back  from TJS starting around the middle of June. They need to get more young arms in the BP. 

The juice isn't worth the squeeze with him. Not the type of guy who gets you a nice prospect back. 

[Chicago White Sox]

13 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

My reasoning is that might be the most they offer and he'll get more according to most estimates. 

They got some arms coming back  from TJS starting around the middle of June. They need to get more young arms in the BP. 

The juice isn't worth the squeeze with him. Not the type of guy who gets you a nice prospect back. 

The Sox want a legit closer and Fairbanks can easily fit into their budget.  Again, the Rays couldn’t find a buyer for him at 1/$11M.  Proven closer with enough warts to help keep his price down makes a ton of sense for us IMO.

[WestEddy]

20 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

The Sox want a legit closer and Fairbanks can easily fit into their budget.  Again, the Rays couldn’t find a buyer for him at 1/$11M.  Proven closer with enough warts to help keep his price down makes a ton of sense for us IMO.

I would think that if they're ready to go 2/16 for a guy like Fairbanks, there's a bunch of Shingo Takatsu type dudes looking to pitch in the US for a season or two, that is, if they're just looking for a closer to anchor the bullpen for 4 months. 

[caulfield12]

LHP Gregory Soto to Pirates

1 year $7.75 million

$84 million projected OD payroll atm

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mlb/mlb-pirates-aim-for-record-high-payroll-eyeing-top-market-reinforcements/ar-AA1R3Sbl

Aiming for $100 million payroll in 2026

Edited Wednesday at 02:18 AM by caulfield12

[CWSpalehoseCWS]

 

 

[Chicago White Sox]

2 minutes ago, CWSpalehoseCWS said:

 

 

I fucking hate the Dodgers if this real.  Put a god damn cap in place and add some god damn parity to the league.

[Autumn Dreamin]

[GreenSox]

8 hours ago, chw42 said:

Benintendi for Scott + cash, who says no? 

I don't it's so crazy.  Dodgers had -.7 bWAR in LF last season.  I could kind of see Benintendi giving max effort on a good team.

 

[WhiteSox2023]

37 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

I fucking hate the Dodgers if this real.  Put a god damn cap in place and add some god damn parity to the league.

It’s amazing and enviable.  While the Sox are signing MLB washouts out of Japan to their rotation, the Dodgers are adding yet another ace.

[caulfield12]

3 hours ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

It’s amazing and enviable.  While the Sox are signing MLB washouts out of Japan to their rotation, the Dodgers are adding yet another ace.

https://detroitsportsnation.com/tigers-massive-tarik-skubal-dodgers-trade-proposal/jeff/detroit-tigers/12/08/2025/481399/

Glasnow Sheehan Zh.Hope

Two starting pitchers, one cost controlled, and a young starting OFer to pair with Riley Greene.

 

Makes a ton of sense.

Skubal Matsumoto Snell Ohtani the core of the rotation.

Dodgers would still hold onto four young starters (Sasaki Wrobleski Casparius River Ryan)

4 outfielders: Josue DePaula Sirota Eduardo Quintero Kendall George

D.Rushing and a boatload of infield prospects (including Hy.Kim and Alex Freeland)

Already traded the Tigers their starting SS for Flaherty in 2024 deal, so quite familiar with DET roster/system atm.

Andy Pages still in CF.

Edited Wednesday at 08:14 AM by caulfield12

[kitekrazy]

1 hour ago, Chicago White Sox said:

I fucking hate the Dodgers if this real.  Put a god damn cap in place and add some god damn parity to the league.

There is parity but it's bad parity.

I don't know how a cap would change this but I would detest the Tigers more than the Dodgers for doing this.   

 Fans can't have things unless you are on both coasts.

I for one will never believe in a statement that attendance is up in MLB.   

I've heard more than once, never trade with the Dodgers.

This is not good for the game.

[Lip Man 1]

1 hour ago, Chicago White Sox said:

I fucking hate the Dodgers if this real.  Put a god damn cap in place and add some god damn parity to the league.

Or perhaps get owners in place who care more about winning than profit margins. Especially those getting millions in revenue sharing money and national broadcast deals (which when you add them all up equals roughly 200 million for each team every year) That's not counting local media rights, national radio rights, merchandising, concessions and tickets sold.  

Just a thought.

Everyone thought the Dodgers would easily beat the Blue Jays to win the series. It was anything but that wasn't it?

As has been shown by folks here at the web site. MLB has had more teams compete in and or/win the World Series than the NBA has had or the NFL either for their respective championships. 

 

[caulfield12]

Except LA has made the playoffs 13 consecutive seasons...won all those NL West titles except finishing 1 GB SFG.

Braves had a similar streak. But only one WS title during all that time.

Plus LA is completing dominating in getting most of the star players they want out of Japan and Korea.

 

T.Imai will actually be one of the first Japanese pitchers to deliberately go elsewhere...to a team challenging LA for supremacy.

Murakami doesn't have a spot in LA with Muncy Freeman and Ohtani blocking him.  Same with Okamoto.

[WestEddy]

1 hour ago, Lip Man 1 said:

Or perhaps get owners in place who care more about winning than profit margins. Especially those getting millions in revenue sharing money and national broadcast deals (which when you add them all up equals roughly 200 million for each team every year) That's not counting local media rights, national radio rights, merchandising, concessions and tickets sold.  

Just a thought.

Everyone thought the Dodgers would easily beat the Blue Jays to win the series. It was anything but that wasn't it?

As has been shown by folks here at the web site. MLB has had more teams compete in and or/win the World Series than the NBA has had or the NFL either for their respective championships. 

 

I completely agree with your Socialistic view. Force business owners into competitive situations. 

[caulfield12]

Hunter Greene also rumored to LAD

Do the Dodgers need a starting pitcher? No. But they have the one thing the Reds most need: outfielders with big upside. Note that those top four prospects are all outfielders. One of those is Sirota, a third-round pick in 2024 out of Northeastern by ... the Reds, who then traded him last offseason for Gavin Lux (poor Harold). Sirota had a big year, hitting .333/.452/.616 in 59 games between Single-A and High-A. That trade now looks like a huge mistake by Cincinnati -- so maybe those calls from Dodgers president of baseball operations Andrew Friedman will go unanswered.

None of those outfielders has played more than six games above High-A, so they're unlikely to help the Reds in 2026. Still, there's a possible match here, and the Dodgers know how to swing big. They could add Greene to their already superstar-laden rotation and then perhaps look to flip Tyler Glasnow to clear a spot for Greene and trim some salary.

espn.com

Edited Wednesday at 08:15 AM by caulfield12

[caulfield12]

1 hour ago, WestEddy said:

I completely agree with your Socialistic view. Force business owners into competitive situations. 

Actually closer to Georgism or Distribution...although, for example, enforcing a $100-125 million payroll floor hardly jolts or cajoles the bottom feeding organizations into more competitiveness.

How do you measure if someone like Ricketts cares more about winning than the bottom line profit margin?  Who decides if the Cubs having the 12th highest payroll is "reasonable enough"?

Or that the White Sox should not be allowed to run the 29th highest payroll or that it's irrational to not once sign a contract over $75 million?

Even if every team was forced to have the exact same payroll, large market teams on the coasts would still get the most talent because of abundant off the field marketing and promotional opportunities or more attractive standards/conditions of living.

[poppysox]

3 hours ago, caulfield12 said:

Actually closer to Georgism or Distribution...although, for example, enforcing a $100-125 million payroll floor hardly jolts or cajoles the bottom feeding organizations into more competitiveness.

How do you measure if someone like Ricketts cares more about winning than the bottom line profit margin?  Who decides if the Cubs having the 12th highest payroll is "reasonable enough"?

Or that the White Sox should not be allowed to run the 29th highest payroll or that it's irrational to not once sign a contract over $75 million?

Even if every team was forced to have the exact same payroll, large market teams on the coasts would still get the most talent because of abundant off the field marketing and promotional opportunities or more attractive standards/conditions of living.

New York and LA do not equal "attractive standards/conditions of living."
 

[caulfield12]

Just now, poppysox said:

New York and LA do not equal "attractive standards/conditions of living."
 

Maybe not NY, but LA is a dream destination for so many around the world if you have the money to afford it.  Just for the weather alone.

Toronto also seems to be gaining steam by the year.

 

"According to sources, Robert Suárez and his camp were waiting for a resolution with Edwin Díaz before signing. Now that Diaz has found his next home, expect Suárez’s market and the market for former Rays reliever Pete Fairbanks to move quickly."

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