Balta1701 Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 QUOTE (Kalapse @ Aug 10, 2009 -> 05:33 PM) He'd be by far the most talented CF on the market and the only decent option under age 30. I'd guess he'd be offered at least 4/$48, possibly 4/52. He's coming off a down year, so that would hurt him (unless he rakes the 2nd half of this year...like he did in the 2nd half last year). The downturn in the market and his down season would combine and I think he'd wind up somewhere in that area. Next offseason, if the economy has sufficiently recovered, he'd be talking 5/$65 or better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 Rios is 6'5" 215lbs. He's going to lose a step or so in the next couple seasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 For what they have to pay Rios the rest of the year, its less than the extra cash they would have had to pay Peavy if he had approved the trade in May. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaGame Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 My only question is what number will Becks wear now? 8? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 10, 2009 -> 07:35 PM) I'd guess he'd be offered at least 4/$48, possibly 4/52. He's coming off a down year, so that would hurt him (unless he rakes the 2nd half of this year...like he did in the 2nd half last year). The downturn in the market and his down season would combine and I think he'd wind up somewhere in that area. Next offseason, if the economy has sufficiently recovered, he'd be talking 5/$65 or better. I don't see that at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Aug 10, 2009 -> 07:38 PM) Rios is 6'5" 215lbs. He's going to lose a step or so in the next couple seasons. Jeesh, Dick. Do you have to piss on my parade already? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Aug 10, 2009 -> 05:41 PM) I don't see that at all. Several mid-30 year olds got 3 years and $10 million plus a year last year. This guy is 28. People will pay for that, with good reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Aug 10, 2009 -> 05:38 PM) Rios is 6'5" 215lbs. He's going to lose a step or so in the next couple seasons. HE also gets to move to a natural surface instead of the turf in Toronto. That could help him go the other way. He's also been an 80%ish stolen base guy in the past year or two anyway, so he's not just running crazy; he's picking his spots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 (edited) QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Aug 10, 2009 -> 07:38 PM) Rios is 6'5" 215lbs. He's going to lose a step or so in the next couple seasons. Â Loses a step in CF (though age 30-31, I highly doubt it'll be an extreme step, if at all) put him in RF where he'll still be elite defensively. Problem solved. And as Balta said, not playing on turf definitely helps. Edited August 11, 2009 by SoxAce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 KW sez we went after him hard before the deadline, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 10, 2009 -> 07:42 PM) Several mid-30 year olds got 3 years and $10 million plus a year last year. This guy is 28. People will pay for that, with good reason. Ibanez got 3 years $31 million. In fact, Manny and Texiera were the only non pitchers to get more than $31 million. Rios is owed $60 million. He's got himself a good deal. He's not the hitter Ibanez is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iWiN4PreP Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Aug 10, 2009 -> 08:35 PM) Anyone catch KW on the MLB network a few minutes ago? One of the hosts said that Sox fans were concerned about the contract. Kenny responded "Why? They're not paying the contract. We didn't raise ticket prices today because of the acquisition". LOL  lmfao thats awesome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Aug 10, 2009 -> 05:45 PM) Ibanez got 3 years $31 million. In fact, Manny and Texiera were the only non pitchers to get more than $31 million. Rios is owed $60 million. He's got himself a good deal. He's not the hitter Ibanez is. Ibanez isn't a CF though, and Ibanez isn't going to steal 30 bases a year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenksycat Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 (edited) QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Aug 10, 2009 -> 07:45 PM) Ibanez got 3 years $31 million. In fact, Manny and Texiera were the only non pitchers to get more than $31 million. Rios is owed $60 million. He's got himself a good deal. He's not the hitter Ibanez is. Â Bradley - 3/30 Â QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 10, 2009 -> 07:45 PM) Ibanez isn't a CF though, and Ibanez isn't going to steal 30 bases a year. Â Â this as well. Ibanez = Dye defensively Edited August 11, 2009 by Jenksy Cat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Aug 10, 2009 -> 07:45 PM) Ibanez got 3 years $31 million. In fact, Manny and Texiera were the only non pitchers to get more than $31 million. Rios is owed $60 million. He's got himself a good deal. He's not the hitter Ibanez is. Â Â Ibanez also was a late bloomer. We are getting Rios in the prime of his career. Â Â I am very excited about this, I think this guy is going to be big. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 anyone know the link to the internet radio feed of 670? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 Can someone summarize the comments made by KW on Lawrence Holmes' Show? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 (edited) Raul Ibanez - 37 $11 million per year for 3 years. WAR since 2004 - 14.7 Â Milton Bradley - 31 $10 million per year for 3 years. WAR since 2004 - 16 Â Adam Dunn - 29 $10 million per year for 2 years. WAR since 2004 - 15.5 Â Alex Rios - 28 $12 million per year for 5 years. WAR since 2004 - 17.5 Â We win. Edited August 11, 2009 by chw42 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 QUOTE (hi8is @ Aug 10, 2009 -> 07:49 PM) anyone know the link to the internet radio feed of 670? http://player.play.it/player/player.html?v...onestat=wscr-am http://www.670thescore.com/pages/3578667.php Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny Hates Prospects Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 Kenny hasn't been on the score yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCSox Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Aug 10, 2009 -> 05:45 PM) He's not the hitter Ibanez is. Â He's also not the 'roider that Ibanez allegedly is. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 QUOTE (chw42 @ Aug 10, 2009 -> 07:49 PM) Raul Ibanez - 37 $11 million per year for 3 years. WAR since 2004 - 14.7 Â Milton Bradley - 31 $10 million per year for 3 years. WAR since 2004 - 16 Â Adam Dunn - 29 $10 million per year for 2 years. WAR since 2004 - 15.5 Â Alex Rios - 28 $12 million per year for 5 years. WAR since 2004 - 17.5 Â We win. Â If you double the financial commitment, you should win. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 QUOTE (WCSox @ Aug 10, 2009 -> 07:53 PM) He's also not the 'roider that Ibanez allegedly is. You know this how? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Aug 10, 2009 -> 07:48 PM) [/b]Â Â Ibanez also was a late bloomer. We are getting Rios in the prime of his career. Â Â I am very excited about this, I think this guy is going to be big. I hope so, they are committing more money to him than they gave Mark Buerhle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamrock4Life Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 From the old thread: Â The team with the worst record "wins" the claim and is the only team they can negotiate with. That is also the only team the Jays would know placed the claim. Â Not entirely true. Until the offseason, the White Sox would have been the only team Toronto was able to negotiate with and that was only for 48.5 buisness hours. Â But according to the Steve Phillips waiver wire arcticle on espn.com from 2005, the team waiving the player, gets to see who put a claim on the player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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