Buehrle>Wood Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 QUOTE (Baron @ May 27, 2014 -> 01:32 PM) Honestly it doesnt and shouldnt matter what Hawk has to say on this subject. There is a reason why Aiken and Kolek are ranked so highly...even above the mighty college pitchers. This especially goes for Aiken...the pitches he has at his age are why he is being considered at 1. Of course hawk's analysis is meaningless to Hahn and who we draft. I do find it odd that he has found this new subject to randomly rant about every game now. Maybe someone told him something, but that's putting on a tinfoil hat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ May 27, 2014 -> 06:35 PM) Of course hawk's analysis is meaningless to Hahn and who we draft. I do find it odd that he has found this new subject to randomly rant about every game now. Maybe someone told him something, but that's putting on a tinfoil hat. He's old man, my grandpa sometimes goes off about bird feeders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 Hawk's been saying that first round HS pitchers are bad picks for years. His stance is completely unrelated to this year's situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harfman77 Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ May 27, 2014 -> 02:02 PM) Hawk's been saying that first round HS pitchers are bad picks for years. His stance is completely unrelated to this year's situation. What new? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harfman77 Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ May 27, 2014 -> 01:35 PM) Of course hawk's analysis is meaningless to Hahn and who we draft. I do find it odd that he has found this new subject to randomly rant about every game now. Maybe someone told him something, but that's putting on a tinfoil hat. Just wait until the Sox pick a HS pitcher and then his line will be, "He's not your typical HS pitcher, this kid has the makings of a great one." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 QUOTE (raBBit @ May 27, 2014 -> 09:39 PM) That was just a big swing and miss from Law. Ironically, he says Jim Callis's reporting over the years is what he strives for as a reporter. Law says when Callis says something, it's true. Ironcially, Callis's and Law's sources are saying complete opposite things less than two weeks away from the draft. In his chat last week there was a question on which teams' fans say Law hates them the most and the White Sox were not even mentioned. There was three or four teams mentioned and I think he said it was either the Cubs or the Giants. In any case, Law has been an admirer of Rick Hahn's work in the early going. As I said, I don't think he hates the white sox, but there did seem to be some antagonism during Kenny Williams reign and I did not see Law with much on the White Sox beside after the fact commentary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 (edited) I hope it works out Sox get Aiken over Kolek. Edited May 27, 2014 by Soxfest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSpalehoseCWS Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ May 27, 2014 -> 02:02 PM) Hawk's been saying that first round HS pitchers are bad picks for years. His stance is completely unrelated to this year's situation. I heard him say that on one of the last broadcasts. I wonder how he will spin his view point if the Sox end up with one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ultimate Champion Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 My preferred way of doing this: 1) Kolek at slot or below, pick back otherwise 2) Aiken at slot or below, pick back otherwise 3) Hoffman way under slot, and go with overslot guys from then on This way we get SP with upside at the top and money to spend elsewhere. Kolek would look wonderful in this farm and on the mound in a Sox uniform & hopefully there are enough questions to get him to slip to #3, because on talent I think he's the #1 with Aiken close behind him. No way do I deal with Borass, but I guess I wouldn't mind drafting Rodon & playing the Hoffman game where you cap it at slot or below and take overslot guys throughout, and then when the window on Rodon starts to close, if he looks unsignable, you make a last minute push and offer Rodon's bonus money to a bunch of overslot guys in the later rounds, and go with the numbers & plan on getting that pick back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneofthemikes Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 I don't see any way that the Sox wind up with Hoffman, regardless of what the first couple of picks are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie Ball Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 QUOTE (The Ultimate Champion @ May 28, 2014 -> 06:58 PM) My preferred way of doing this: 1) Kolek at slot or below, pick back otherwise 2) Aiken at slot or below, pick back otherwise 3) Hoffman way under slot, and go with overslot guys from then on This way we get SP with upside at the top and money to spend elsewhere. Kolek would look wonderful in this farm and on the mound in a Sox uniform & hopefully there are enough questions to get him to slip to #3, because on talent I think he's the #1 with Aiken close behind him. No way do I deal with Borass, but I guess I wouldn't mind drafting Rodon & playing the Hoffman game where you cap it at slot or below and take overslot guys throughout, and then when the window on Rodon starts to close, if he looks unsignable, you make a last minute push and offer Rodon's bonus money to a bunch of overslot guys in the later rounds, and go with the numbers & plan on getting that pick back. You can't do this. If you don't sign the #1 pick you lose the bonus amount assigned to that pick and then receive a compensation pick the following year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ultimate Champion Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 QUOTE (oneofthemikes @ May 28, 2014 -> 01:10 PM) I don't see any way that the Sox wind up with Hoffman, regardless of what the first couple of picks are. I agree but just imagine all the potential future 1st round talent you could lock up if you had about $7M or so to spend on your second pick and going forward. We're probably identifying all kinds of talented kids out there for the later rounds. Some will have strong commitments and will go to school, but throwing $1M in their faces changes things a little. And if you really stop and think about it, we're already out there trying to project 14 year old boys into baseball playing men, and we're already out there prepared to literally throw millions of dollars at kids who were 15 just a few months ago. Going after college freshmen, high school kids, etc. and throwing big money at them seems a whole lot safer to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ultimate Champion Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 QUOTE (Ozzie Ball @ May 28, 2014 -> 01:15 PM) You can't do this. If you don't sign the #1 pick you lose the bonus amount assigned to that pick and then receive a compensation pick the following year. Ah, I didn't know that. Then I definitely pass on Rodon. No way does he sign for #3 slot money IMO unless HE and his family force the thing through and even then, that goes down to the very day of the deadline. I want a quicker sign and some certainty so I can target the overslot guys. No reason to mess with Borass on a guy Borass feels is the BPA in the draft, that's just a terrible series of negotiations that impacts the whole rest of the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 Seth Lakso @SethLakso 4m More Per an industry source, this is consensus #whitesox current draft board... 1- Aiken 2- Rodon 3- Kolek 4 - Nola 5- Jackson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 I was hoping more along the lines of... 1- Aiken 2- Kolek 3- Jackson 4- Nola 5- Rodon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ May 29, 2014 -> 01:50 AM) Seth Lakso @SethLakso 4m More Per an industry source, this is consensus #whitesox current draft board... 1- Aiken 2- Rodon 3- Kolek 4 - Nola 5- Jackson Sounds good to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ May 28, 2014 -> 08:50 PM) Seth Lakso @SethLakso 4m More Per an industry source, this is consensus #whitesox current draft board... 1- Aiken 2- Rodon 3- Kolek 4 - Nola 5- Jackson Sounds perfect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 QUOTE (fathom @ May 28, 2014 -> 09:28 PM) Sounds good to me Yup, fine with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 (edited) Does sound fine to me Edited May 29, 2014 by Bigsoxhurt35 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 So surely we get one of those three. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ May 28, 2014 -> 08:50 PM) Seth Lakso @SethLakso 4m More Per an industry source, this is consensus #whitesox current draft board... 1- Aiken 2- Rodon 3- Kolek 4 - Nola 5- Jackson That will work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 I like Kolek the best but will be very happy with one of the top 3. I still never trust these random "sources" when people just throw that out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 QUOTE (Rowand44 @ May 28, 2014 -> 10:25 PM) I like Kolek the best but will be very happy with one of the top 3. I still never trust these random "sources" when people just throw that out there. It's that time of year. Much like the week leading up to the NFL draft, can't believe s***. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royoung Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ May 28, 2014 -> 08:50 PM) Seth Lakso @SethLakso 4m More Per an industry source, this is consensus #whitesox current draft board... 1- Aiken 2- Rodon 3- Kolek 4 - Nola 5- Jackson Yeah thats exactly my top five. Thus I choose to believe in Seth Lasko's "source!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 Who is Seth Lasko? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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