It's about that time of the year again...

[winninguglyin83]

1. Houston .378

 

2. Arizona .413

 

3. Colorado .413

 

4.Minn .427

 

5. Houston .441

 

6. Boston .441

 

7. Sox .444

 

Plenty of opportunity to slip under Boston, Houston and Minny.

[ChiliIrishHammock24]

With today's Sox loss, we gained a game on.....

 

Texas, Houston, Colorado.

 

Sox still have the 8th pick, are 9.5 GB of Texas for the #1 pick, are 2.5 GB of the Twins for the #5 pick, and are 4 games ahead of the Reds for a protected pick.

[LDF]

With today's Sox loss, we gained a game on.....

 

Texas, Houston, Colorado.

 

Sox still have the 8th pick, are 9.5 GB of Texas for the #1 pick, are 2.5 GB of the Twins for the #5 pick, and are 4 games ahead of the Reds for a protected pick.

 

its going to be tough to get ahead of Tex esp with their schedule and 9 games ahead of everyone.

but I like the race with Arz and Col. they are in the same boat as the sox. the remaining games

each are just as tough as the sox.

[BlackSox13]

Realistically I can see the Sox climbing past Houston, Boston and Minnisota but the cubs seem damn determined to have a side by side drag race with the Sox. In the end I'd guess the Sox finish with the 5th pick. We'll see what happens.

[Eminor3rd]

So, who gets the title of Tank Commander this year? Last year it was Ax.

 

Scotty Carroll

[Al Lopez's Ghost]

So, who gets the title of Tank Commander this year? Last year it was Ax.

Bellisario

[shysocks]

Scotty Carroll

Somebody should tell him then. Seems like maybe they appointed #'s 8-14 on this list instead.

[harfman77]

People are telling me that it's better to have the 5th pick instead of the 12. It seems logical but in history it doesn't seem to matter.

 

Of course everyone can view it differently that's half the fun of the discussion. There is no right or wrong just truth from a different point of view (Yoda).

 

My original point was in response to a post about X number of games back of the 5th pick in next years draft. There really doesn't seem to be much of a better chance of a good player in the 12th spot compared to the 5th spot. Unless you have of the the top two or three is just seems pointless to aggravate yourself with losses. That's all. Rooting for poor play just isn't a fun way to watch a baseball game when it doesn't seem to matter unless the team hits near 100 loses.

 

This isn't life or death it's baseball. Enjoy it. If enjoying it for you is to root for poor play. More power to you. i'm just saying that in the end it really doesn't matter unless you have one of the top two or three picks.

 

Where it really matters is in the size of the draft pool that you have to assign through the draft. A larger pool will allow you to get more high end talent later in the draft as the Sox did two years ago getting Michaeleski and Danish and this season getting Adams despite having to go over slot for Rodon. It just gives you more chances at successfully drafting a MLB level player.

[southsider2k5]

Where it really matters is in the size of the draft pool that you have to assign through the draft. A larger pool will allow you to get more high end talent later in the draft as the Sox did two years ago getting Michaeleski and Danish and this season getting Adams despite having to go over slot for Rodon. It just gives you more chances at successfully drafting a MLB level player.

 

Only if you go under pool with that top pick. Otherwise it has zero, or even a negative effect, like we saw with Rodon. Rodon actually cost us money we could use for later picks.

[Balta1701]

Only if you go under pool with that top pick. Otherwise it has zero, or even a negative effect, like we saw with Rodon. Rodon actually cost us money we could use for later picks.

BUT...it also helps you in having a larger international pool, and it could also help you, for example, by signing a guy who you pick in the 3rd slot in the draft who probably should have gone #1 but fell because idiots.

[southsider2k5]

BUT...it also helps you in having a larger international pool, and it could also help you, for example, by signing a guy who you pick in the 3rd slot in the draft who probably should have gone #1 but fell because idiots.

 

The first, sure. The second, only because we went over slot and didn't sign other picks potentially. It doesn't matter if you have a $5m slot, or $2 million... if you go over, you lose slot money later.

[LDF]

Only if you go under pool with that top pick. Otherwise it has zero, or even a negative effect, like we saw with Rodon. Rodon actually cost us money we could use for later picks.

 

Where it really matters is in the size of the draft pool that you have to assign through the draft. A larger pool will allow you to get more high end talent later in the draft as the Sox did two years ago getting Michaeleski and Danish and this season getting Adams despite having to go over slot for Rodon. It just gives you more chances at successfully drafting a MLB level player.

 

I will like to disagree with both and for the following reason.

 

1. of the top 100 rated prospects how many do the sox have rated, > 2

2. the sox nations are excited about the 3 middle infielders and young pitchers

but are they going to be rated highly. no, but that are still a valuable part of the

future.

3. of the 2014 draft how many more will get rated, beside Rodon which

is rated>Adams maybe.

 

botton line getting the higher pick will allow the sox to pick up a better prospects,

regardless of the salary pool. unless of course it is another Scott B client.

 

the sox need prospects, plain and simple.

[ChiliIrishHammock24]

Tyler Flowers hates draft picks. Because of that inexplicable win, we LOST a game on....

 

Phillies, Cubs, Red Sox, Rockies.

 

We lost a game on every team with a worse record then us. Then we also lost a half a game on the teams that didn't play. Basically, this was a terrible game to ever win.

 

Sox drop back to the #9 pick, are 10 GB of the #1 pick, are 3 GB of the #5 pick, and are 2.5 games ahead of protected pick.

 

 

[kitekrazy]

Tyler Flowers hates draft picks. Because of that inexplicable win, we LOST a game on....

 

Phillies, Cubs, Red Sox, Rockies.

 

We lost a game on every team with a worse record then us. Then we also lost a half a game on the teams that didn't play. Basically, this was a terrible game to ever win.

 

Sox drop back to the #9 pick, are 10 GB of the #1 pick, are 3 GB of the #5 pick, and are 2.5 games ahead of protected pick.

 

Plus putting Detroit closer to the post season.

 

[caulfield12]

Plus putting Detroit closer to the post season.

 

 

Oakland's season is feeling a lot like 2005 for the White Sox, except Cleveland (unlike the Angels) never caught and blew past us because we were something like 14 games up at one point.

[shysocks]

Oakland's season is feeling a lot like 2005 for the White Sox, except Cleveland (unlike the Angels) never caught and blew past us because we were something like 14 games up at one point.

So not really anything like 2005 for the White Sox.

[Quin]

So not really anything like 2005 for the White Sox.

 

This. The A's already have as many losses as the 2005 Sox. Not nearly as dominant pre-September.

[caulfield12]

So not really anything like 2005 for the White Sox.

 

Except the A's had the best record in baseball for much of the season and, like the 2005 White Sox, were/are in real danger of missing the playoffs until the final week of the season.

 

The presence of the Angels is less important than the state of the A's. Without Richards, it's going to be extremely difficult for LA to line-up starting pitching in the playoffs after Jered Weaver.

[ChiliIrishHammock24]

White Sox gained a game on.....

 

Minnesota, Houston.

 

Sox still have the #9 pick, are 10 GB of the #1 pick, are 2 GB of the #5 pick, and are 3.5 games ahead of a protected pick.

[caulfield12]

Darned Cubs!!!

 

If they wouldn't keep losing more than us, we'd be at 8.

 

Interesting how in 2013 and 2014 we're almost parallel records.

Edited September 10, 2014 by caulfield12

[flavum]

The Red Sox are in full tank mode.

 

Considering the Sox had the 14th worst record on August 1st, I would be happy with the 9th pick.

Edited September 10, 2014 by flavum

[greg775]

Darned Cubs!!!

 

If they wouldn't keep losing more than us, we'd be at 8.

 

Interesting how in 2013 and 2014 we're almost parallel records.

 

Back in the day there were fights at our grade school and high school over Cubs record vs. Sox record.

I can imagine how the teachers are so happy nowadays there are no fights. At the grade school recess or gym class the Cub fan says, "Ha ha. The Cubs have a better record than your Sox." And the little Sox fan instead of tackling him counters with ... "who gives a s***? I want to lose We get the better draft pick! Ha ha. We win. We get the better draft pick."

[witesoxfan]

Back in the day there were fights at our grade school and high school over Cubs record vs. Sox record.

I can imagine how the teachers are so happy nowadays there are no fights. At the grade school recess or gym class the Cub fan says, "Ha ha. The Cubs have a better record than your Sox." And the little Sox fan instead of tackling him counters with ... "who gives a s***? I want to lose We get the better draft pick! Ha ha. We win. We get the better draft pick."

 

No

[Quin]

Back in the day there were fights at our grade school and high school over Cubs record vs. Sox record.

I can imagine how the teachers are so happy nowadays there are no fights. At the grade school recess or gym class the Cub fan says, "Ha ha. The Cubs have a better record than your Sox." And the little Sox fan instead of tackling him counters with ... "who gives a s***? I want to lose We get the better draft pick! Ha ha. We win. We get the better draft pick."

 

1) No

 

2) For someone that talks about the good ol' days a lot, there sure were a lot of fights in your schools. Shameful.

 

3) People have more common sense than to fight about Sox vs. Cubs in school or, you know, anywhere. Otherwise we get cases like the now crippled Giants fan who was assaulted at a Dodgers game.

 

4) When both teams are crap, the arguments tended to swing more towards "Well, we're less awful than you."

[ChiliIrishHammock24]

1) No

 

2) For someone that talks about the good ol' days a lot, there sure were a lot of fights in your schools. Shameful.

 

3) People have more common sense than to fight about Sox vs. Cubs in school or, you know, anywhere. Otherwise we get cases like the now crippled Giants fan who was assaulted at a Dodgers game.

 

4) When both teams are crap, the arguments tended to swing more towards "Well, we're less awful than you."

 

Here is how every conversation went that I remember having in grade school about Cubs vs. Sox. And mind you this conversation is REGARDLESS of current records, because that didn't stop anyone from saying "YOUR TEAM SUCKS!"

 

"Sox suck!"

"No! Cubs suck! When was the last time you won a WS?"

"When was the last time you guys won a WS? Over 80 years ago?"

"80 years is better than 90 years! They never even won in Wrigley!"

"Yeah, well at least the Cubs didn't throw a World Series!"

"Yeah! Well the Cubs suck!"

 

*repeat*

 

This narrative slightly changed in HS after 2005, but still mostly the same conversation, now with the fact that the Cubs ALSO threw a World Series being included.