LDF Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Nov 28, 2014 -> 04:13 PM) If he had the velocity he used to have, I would be all about this. Losing the 4MPH off his fastball, he just looks like BP excellent with hard facts to support. this is his agents spin doctoring the damage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxJon Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 I'd seriously be happy if he was our final addition Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 QUOTE (ChiSoxJon @ Nov 28, 2014 -> 09:56 AM) I'd seriously be happy if he was our final addition I wouldn't be happy if he was our final decision. I still expect another bullpen arm (L or R), and a LFer (I want Melky so bad). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 QUOTE (ChiSoxJon @ Nov 28, 2014 -> 04:56 PM) I'd seriously be happy if he was our final addition at what cost, just asking a question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisox05 Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 masterson has meetings with white sox, red sox, marlins maybe cubs and more. kc, sf & minn also in. http://t.co/HwPeSd9zTj https://twitter.com/JonHeymanCBS/status/542050439089225728 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 Jon Heyman @JonHeymanCBS 4m4 minutes ago masterson has meetings with white sox, red sox, marlins maybe cubs and more. kc, sf & minn also in. http://cbsprt.co/1vx8v1A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royoung Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Dec 8, 2014 -> 02:22 PM) masterson has meetings with white sox, red sox, marlins maybe cubs and more. kc, sf & minn also in. http://t.co/HwPeSd9zTj https://twitter.com/JonHeymanCBS/status/542050439089225728 Would love to see this happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 Bill James 2015 handbook ranks John Danks the #111 starter. A guy the Sox supposedly need to pay to get rid of at just about any cost. Justin Masterson is ranked #105. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 (edited) QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 8, 2014 -> 02:24 PM) Bill James 2015 handbook ranks John Danks the #111 starter. A guy the Sox supposedly need to pay to get rid of at just about any cost. Justin Masterson is ranked #105. I knew there was something I needed to buy...Thanks for reminding me Dick Allen. Almost forgot to get my yearly copy of the handbook. Edited December 8, 2014 by Baron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 8, 2014 -> 02:24 PM) Bill James 2015 handbook ranks John Danks the #111 starter. A guy the Sox supposedly need to pay to get rid of at just about any cost. Justin Masterson is ranked #105. I don't mind a low cost, 1 year deal as I think he has an arsenal that would be well equipped for the pen too. I wouldn't do anything more than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 I think this is a cub signing in hopes of a bounce back flip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donny Lucy's Avocado Farm Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 Hopefully they are selling him on a bullpen/setup role. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lasttriptotulsa Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 QUOTE (Charlie Haeger's Knuckles @ Dec 8, 2014 -> 02:41 PM) Hopefully they are selling him on a bullpen/setup role. No chance of that. He has too much talent for somebody to not give him another chance starting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donny Lucy's Avocado Farm Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 QUOTE (lasttriptotulsa @ Dec 8, 2014 -> 03:54 PM) No chance of that. He has too much talent for somebody to not give him another chance starting. I wasn't being serious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 I like the idea of a Masterson-type of guy, but he lost so much velocity, it's harder see him bouncing back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Dec 8, 2014 -> 03:37 PM) I like the idea of a Masterson-type of guy, but he lost so much velocity, it's harder see him bouncing back. I think much of the velocity was due to injury. He injured his knee and he should come back from that pretty well. You can't put much behind a pitch without the strong base. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunt Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 8, 2014 -> 02:24 PM) Bill James 2015 handbook ranks John Danks the #111 starter. A guy the Sox supposedly need to pay to get rid of at just about any cost. Justin Masterson is ranked #105. Yup, I have no interest whatsoever in Masterson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 QUOTE (Dunt @ Dec 8, 2014 -> 03:47 PM) Yup, I have no interest whatsoever in Masterson I think both will rebound from different injury scenarios. However, I think Masterson will be cheaper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 QUOTE (ptatc @ Dec 8, 2014 -> 03:44 PM) I think much of the velocity was due to injury. He injured his knee and he should come back from that pretty well. You can't put much behind a pitch without the strong base. Thanks for the info. I did not know what the externality was for his decline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royoung Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 QUOTE (ptatc @ Dec 8, 2014 -> 03:50 PM) I think both will rebound from different injury scenarios. However, I think Masterson will be cheaper. Yeah I am frankly surprised more people aren't interested in taking a flyer on this guy as a 4th-5th starter/justification for keeping Rodon down until he hits super 2 status. Did Paulino traumatize you guys that badly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhonnydanks Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 don't get it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 QUOTE (jhonnydanks @ Dec 8, 2014 -> 04:27 PM) stop, don't get it get it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 (edited) If they don't want to spend $11-13 million for those mid tier guys, then making bets on Masterson or Brett Anderson make a lot more sense financially. It's certainly not the equivalent of Paulino, Josh Johnson, Gavin Floyd or pitchers with multiple TJ surgeries. Edited December 9, 2014 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILMOU Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 (edited) This is the guy I would have predicted acquiring, heading into the offseason, feeling that the bigger expense would still be another bat. Now, I think I want Shark instead, and hoping this is "willing to move on to other options" leverage for RH. Edited December 9, 2014 by Stan Bahnsen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Everyone's already stated the statistical reasons that Volquez will be due for a regression, but since our last pairing of a similar enigmatic pitcher (Liriano) with Cooper, am simply hoping Don can find someone he really clicks with. That never seemed to happen with Paulino last spring, either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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