SoxAce Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 QUOTE (flavum @ Jan 5, 2015 -> 09:15 AM) Looking at the makeup of the team, it's too bad Davidson isn't good enough to be a straight platoon with Gillaspie at 3B. I still have hopes he mashes this year and overtakes Gillaspie later in the year and is serviceable. Bonifacio is overrated on this site, but he is a valuable add cause of the versatility. Nice deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jan 5, 2015 -> 10:02 AM) He said he hits lefties. Left handed pitchers, where he is much better when he hits righty. You just mixed them up. I suck. This is still a good signing, even if he is a poor hitter against RHP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Solid signing and thankfully only a 1 yr deal so if it doesn't work, no major loss. Fills a need now the key is that we utilize him appropriately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donny Lucy's Avocado Farm Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 QUOTE (LDF @ Jan 5, 2015 -> 09:29 AM) Mr Hahn is a baseball demi-god. that is a great sign. too freaking bad i don't live in chi, i would be getting a pack of tickets for next season. sox in "15 Same here. Moved out of state in 2011. First time I've truly wished I was back to go to a Sox game. Will have to plan a trip this summer for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 QUOTE (Charlie Haeger's Knuckles @ Jan 5, 2015 -> 05:24 PM) Same here. Moved out of state in 2011. First time I've truly wished I was back to go to a Sox game. Will have to plan a trip this summer for sure. i was planning on going to soxfest, but our mardi gras ball is then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jan 5, 2015 -> 10:19 AM) Solid signing and thankfully only a 1 yr deal so if it doesn't work, no major loss. Fills a need now the key is that we utilize him appropriately. 4 million dollar option next year. 1 million dollar buyout, but he's only making 3 this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 This is a solid signing given that he's used correctly. He should probably only start against left handed pitchers. I don't want to see him as our starting 2B opening day. That'd be completely missing the point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie Ball Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Love it. Helps bring much needed quality and depth to the bench. A good platoon option with Conor at 3B, brings at least average defensive cover in the OF, 3B and 2B as well as good speed and baserunning. Also a decent insurance option if Sanchez/Micah are a bust/not ready to go at 2nd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Swish, he's balling ... Rick Hahn is so awesome. Seriously, Hahn has given us Sox fans everything we could've wanted this offseason and more. Even if the Sox have a disappointing season, you can't blame it on Hahn. He's done what everyone wanted him to do. Essentially, the Sox replaced Semien and Leury Garcia with Bonifacio, which is amazing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 If he has a 2014 LHP hitting year, this is just a perfect signing. What a career you can make if you can play that many positions. Also, this guy is only 30, I thought he was 33-34, he's been around forever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamTell Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Very nice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 With the Bonifacio signing, how long into the presser until Bruce Levine asks him a Cubs related question? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 QUOTE (chw42 @ Jan 5, 2015 -> 10:32 AM) This is a solid signing given that he's used correctly. He should probably only start against left handed pitchers. I don't want to see him as our starting 2B opening day. That'd be completely missing the point. I hope he'll be used as the utilityman that he is, but I have a feeling we'll try to start him at second. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lvjeremylv Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Hmmm. Ugh. Will the real Emilio Bonifacio please stand up? Last year vs. LHP, he batted .365, had a .411 OBP, and had an OPS of .959. Yay! *just for fun, checks 3 year span, from 2012-2014* 2013 it was .231, .295, and .568. 2012 it was .210, .256, and .503. 2012-2014 combined he's .271, .324, and .683. Can someone who has seen him play a decent amount shed some light on this? Was 2014 a fluke? Because it seems to be a big outlier when looking at his past performances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 QUOTE (lvjeremylv @ Jan 5, 2015 -> 12:22 PM) Hmmm. Ugh. Will the real Emilio Bonifacio please stand up? Last year vs. LHP, he batted .365, had a .411 OBP, and had an OPS of .959. Yay! *just for fun, checks 3 year span, from 2012-2014* 2013 it was .231, .295, and .568. 2012 it was .210, .256, and .503. 2012-2014 combined he's .271, .324, and .683. Can someone who has seen him play a decent amount shed some light on this? Was 2014 a fluke? Because it seems to be a big outlier when looking at his past performances. There are going to be a lot of swings because of the lack of lefties. If he is just average against LHP, it will be an upgrade. While he is overrated here, I don't think anyone really thinks a .959 OPS against LHP is realistic in 2015. From what I have seen from him, he's either really hot or really cold, at least the last few years. thanks, Dick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shysocks Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Jan 5, 2015 -> 12:19 PM) I hope he'll be used as the utilityman that he is, but I have a feeling we'll try to start him at second. I don't get that feeling at all. Think the Sox have Bonifcatio pegged as the 10th man and they'll give Sanchez his shot. QUOTE (lvjeremylv @ Jan 5, 2015 -> 12:22 PM) Hmmm. Ugh. Will the real Emilio Bonifacio please stand up? Last year vs. LHP, he batted .365, had a .411 OBP, and had an OPS of .959. Yay! *just for fun, checks 3 year span, from 2012-2014* 2013 it was .231, .295, and .568. 2012 it was .210, .256, and .503. 2012-2014 combined he's .271, .324, and .683. Can someone who has seen him play a decent amount shed some light on this? Was 2014 a fluke? Because it seems to be a big outlier when looking at his past performances. Just that platoon numbers from year-to-year are pretty small samples. You're talking no more than 136 PA's against lefties in any of those three seasons. Look at the career numbers (.291/.340/.380/.720) and it's clear he's capable enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lvjeremylv Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 QUOTE (shysocks @ Jan 5, 2015 -> 01:29 PM) Just that platoon numbers from year-to-year are pretty small samples. You're talking no more than 136 PA's against lefties in any of those three seasons. Look at the career numbers (.291/.340/.380/.720) and it's clear he's capable enough. I guess. But how many years back are relevant? Is what someone did in 2011 really relevant for what you can expect in 2015? I dunno. I just hope 2012 and 2013 were weird flukes, rather than 2014 being the weird fluke. And yeah, small sample sizes, but presumably that's what we can expect him to have on our team, is anywhere from 100-150 at-bats. We don't want him having anymore than that, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 QUOTE (lvjeremylv @ Jan 5, 2015 -> 12:22 PM) Hmmm. Ugh. Will the real Emilio Bonifacio please stand up? Last year vs. LHP, he batted .365, had a .411 OBP, and had an OPS of .959. Yay! *just for fun, checks 3 year span, from 2012-2014* 2013 it was .231, .295, and .568. 2012 it was .210, .256, and .503. 2012-2014 combined he's .271, .324, and .683. Can someone who has seen him play a decent amount shed some light on this? Was 2014 a fluke? Because it seems to be a big outlier when looking at his past performances. Matt Hoeppner @matthoeppner 54m54 minutes ago New #WhiteSox utility player Emilio Bonifacio has a career 118 OPS+ against left-handed pitching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 QUOTE (shysocks @ Jan 5, 2015 -> 12:29 PM) I don't get that feeling at all. Think the Sox have Bonifcatio pegged as the 10th man and they'll give Sanchez his shot. Just that platoon numbers from year-to-year are pretty small samples. You're talking no more than 136 PA's against lefties in any of those three seasons. Look at the career numbers (.291/.340/.380/.720) and it's clear he's capable enough. I really think Micah is the favorite for the 2B job. If you assume he's the long-term answer and anywhere close to ready, then giving him the starting job this year is the better alternative than spending two full seasons developing rookie 2Bs (Sanchez in 2015 and then Micah in 2016). And quite frankly, I think the Sox believe a healthy Micah Johnson is ready enough for a shot at the majors. His speed gives him a tool that will make him at least somewhat dangerous at the bottom of the order even if he struggles with the bat. And they may feel that working with the major league coaching staff and playing alongside Alexei would be good for his defensive development. Not saying that's the right call, but Merkin has pushing him hard since the end of last year as the starting 2B for 2015 and this is one of those rare occasions where he actually might have some insight into what the front office is thinking and is not just spitting out the normal fluff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shysocks Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 QUOTE (lvjeremylv @ Jan 5, 2015 -> 12:37 PM) I guess. But how many years back are relevant? Is what someone did in 2011 really relevant for what you can expect in 2015? I dunno. I just hope 2012 and 2013 were weird flukes, rather than 2014 being the weird fluke. And yeah, small sample sizes, but presumably that's what we can expect him to have on our team, is anywhere from 100-150 at-bats. We don't want him having anymore than that, right? They're all probably weird flukes and anything can happen next year. It's just if I had to guess one line, it would be close to the career line. I agree that we don't want too see him overused - something else will have gone wrong if that happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shysocks Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jan 5, 2015 -> 12:41 PM) I really think Micah is the favorite for the 2B job. If you assume he's the long-term answer and anywhere close to ready, then giving him the starting job this year is the better alternative than spending two full seasons developing rookie 2Bs (Sanchez in 2015 and then Micah in 2016). And quite frankly, I think the Sox believe a healthy Micah Johnson is ready enough for a shot at the majors. His speed gives him a tool that will make him at least somewhat dangerous at the bottom of the order even if he struggles with the bat. And they may feel that working with the major league coaching staff and playing alongside Alexei would be good for his defensive development. Not saying that's the right call, but Merkin has pushing him hard since the end of last year as the starting 2B for 2015 and this is one of those rare occasions where he actually might have some insight into what the front office is thinking and is not just spitting out the normal fluff. The better alternative for 2015 would be to play the better guy. I find it unlikely that it'll be Micah next year, but I do agree the Sox seem to like him more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 I really applaud this deal. I think we would have loved to get Zobrist but with Bonifacio we get a great signing of a versatile player with speed and save prospects and money. . I anticipate a possible trade coming that may send Viciedo somewhere soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 http://instagram.com/p/xeq9VMsJe6/ Ha! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jan 5, 2015 -> 09:30 AM) Maybe, but given the presence of Bonifacio, Sanchez and Saladino on there, I would think L Garcia is a more likely candidate in this case. Wilkins is a real possibility too, but I bet he'd get claimed and that leaves the Sox with Dan Black as their emergency 1B/DH (not a great position to be in). LGarcia is the one least valuable to the team and he's unlikely to be claimed. I would think the Sox would keep him around for his versatility. He is an adequate 25th guy who can play anywhere.I don't see that as a case in any of the others. I'm sure there are others in the system who cannot do anything at the MLB level. Garcia brings adequate defense all over the field. Edit: My point was they would keep him in the minors. With the signing, they don't need him in the MLB. Edited January 5, 2015 by ptatc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Another solid move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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