Hatchetman Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 I'd take a sniff and see. Even though he's not that great a hitter, our DH's are historically so bad he could help out there too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerksticks Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 Long swing eh? Hell no for big money. Tyler Flowers has a long swing. I hope they spend 15M on a short swing. A baseball swing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 What does everyone think it'll take to get Norris? Please no Erik Johnson and Carlos Sanchez trade suggestions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Oct 29, 2015 -> 09:25 PM) What does everyone think it'll take to get Norris? Please no Erik Johnson and Carlos Sanchez trade suggestions. I'm still shocked we didn't try and involve him or Donaldson in the Shark trade last season. Â Anywho, I'd say some package of EJ. I'm not sure what his value is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfan90 Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Oct 29, 2015 -> 09:33 PM) I'm still shocked we didn't try and involve him or Donaldson in the Shark trade last season. Â Anywho, I'd say some package of EJ. I'm not sure what his value is. Â Huh? Donaldson was already traded to the Jays when we did the Shark trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (Soxfan90 @ Oct 29, 2015 -> 09:18 PM) Huh? Donaldson was already traded to the Jays when we did the Shark trade. Â The Sox started discussing a deal for Shark prior to the Donaldson deal at the November gm meetings (not winter ones). Edited October 30, 2015 by soxfan2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 QUOTE (Soxfan90 @ Oct 29, 2015 -> 10:18 PM) Huh? Donaldson was already traded to the Jays when we did the Shark trade. That shark deal was discussed a while before the winter meetings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reiks12 Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 Donaldson would have hit .213 with the white sox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerksticks Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 QUOTE (reiks12 @ Oct 29, 2015 -> 11:18 PM) Donaldson would have hit .213 with the white sox This Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 QUOTE (reiks12 @ Oct 30, 2015 -> 04:18 AM) Donaldson would have hit .213 with the white sox It does seem that every position player the Sox acquire/bring up does turn to crap the past couple years. I guess the exception was Trayce. .295 in 135 plate appearances with five homers and 16 ribbies. That projects to about 20 homers and 70 RBI for a rookie, not bad. I'd definitely get rid of Avi and gamble on Trayce. If he hits that well he's as good as Avi offensively and so much better defensively. Again, with the Sox luck he'll go 1-for-April and be swimming uphill all year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 QUOTE (raBBit @ Oct 30, 2015 -> 02:28 AM) I like Derek Norris but why would San Diego trade him? They have locked up for another four years and catchers are hard to come by. Preller is going to try and compete again and moving Norris would only make that more difficult. Â They have another MLB ready catcher who they may be willing to let play and could savea little money and add some prospects moving Norris. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 Austin Hedges? Â Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Oct 30, 2015 -> 06:46 AM) Austin Hedges? Â Yeah an article I read yesterday about the Pad Padres off-season mentioned that anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 QUOTE (greg775 @ Oct 29, 2015 -> 11:38 PM) It does seem that every position player the Sox acquire/bring up does turn to crap the past couple years. I guess the exception was Trayce. .295 in 135 plate appearances with five homers and 16 ribbies. That projects to about 20 homers and 70 RBI for a rookie, not bad. I'd definitely get rid of Avi and gamble on Trayce. If he hits that well he's as good as Avi offensively and so much better defensively. 20/70 for Trayce? As much as I want that to happen, it won't. He was so bad offensively in September, perhaps because pitchers figured out his weak spots. I think, best case scenario for Thompson, he plays great defense, hits maybe .260 with 15 homers and 60 RBIs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunt Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 QUOTE (raBBit @ Oct 30, 2015 -> 02:28 AM) I like Derek Norris but why would San Diego trade him? They have locked up for another four years and catchers are hard to come by. Preller is going to try and compete again and moving Norris would only make that more difficult. Â Ya, I was of the thinking that the San Diego FO was waiting for Hedges to assume the role. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Oct 30, 2015 -> 08:01 AM) 20/70 for Trayce? As much as I want that to happen, it won't. He was so bad offensively in September, perhaps because pitchers figured out his weak spots. I think, best case scenario for Thompson, he plays great defense, hits maybe .260 with 15 homers and 60 RBIs. Â Exactly. As soon as the scouting reports come out, these guys who did not perform well offensively at the minor league level, but are outperforming at the major league level, revert back to their norms if not worse. There's no reason to expect he is going to hit better in the majors than he did in the minors. Those numbers will come down. See Gordon Beckham's career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shysocks Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 This was argued to death in a different thread, but Trayce's numbers after August weren't bad at all. .233/.310/.422/.732, 99 wRC+, lost of extra base hits. Anyone here would gladly take that performance over a full season. I'll continue to assert that he's earned a spot ahead of Avisail Garcia on the depth chart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (shysocks @ Oct 30, 2015 -> 08:57 AM) This was argued to death in a different thread, but Trayce's numbers after August weren't bad at all. .233/.310/.422/.732, 99 wRC+, lost of extra base hits. Anyone here would gladly take that performance over a full season. I'll continue to assert that he's earned a spot ahead of Avisail Garcia on the depth chart. He put up a .304 OBP in AAA last year. Â He was really good during his call up. Maybe he clicked with Steverson, but more than likely, if Trayce played everyday, his numbers would be worse than they were in AAA. Â I'd be willing to bet Adam LaRoche puts up a better OPS than Trayce next season, if Trayce was playing every day. Edited October 30, 2015 by Dick Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Oct 30, 2015 -> 09:13 AM) He put up a .304 OBP in AAA last year. Â He was really good during his call up. Maybe he clicked with Steverson, but more than likely, if Trayce played everyday, his numbers would be worse than they were in AAA. Â I'd be willing to bet Adam LaRoche puts up a better OPS than Trayce next season, if Trayce was playing every day. Â Â In his defense, he didn't take as many walks as Charlotte because they wanted him to cut down on his strikeouts. If they want him making more contact than his .OBP is definitely going to be lower. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shysocks Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Oct 30, 2015 -> 09:13 AM) I'd be willing to bet Adam LaRoche puts up a better OPS than Trayce next season, if Trayce was playing every day. I would too, but Trayce is a talented defender. He can be useful - and at minimum better than Avi - without doing what LaRoche is supposed to do at the plate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Oct 30, 2015 -> 09:16 AM) In his defense, he didn't take as many walks as Charlotte because they wanted him to cut down on his strikeouts. If they want him making more contact than his .OBP is definitely going to be lower. We can make excuses for a lot of things, but over 7 minor league seasons he hit .241 with a .319 OBP. Â He may be the rare guy that does better in the majors than the minors, but the odds are against it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjm676 Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 I wonder what it would take to pry Lucroy from Milwaukee. I read the Brewers may try and shop him this offseason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 QUOTE (bjm676 @ Oct 30, 2015 -> 08:32 AM) I wonder what it would take to pry Lucroy from Milwaukee. I read the Brewers may try and shop him this offseason. Â Montas, Adams and Hawkins if they were lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 QUOTE (bjm676 @ Oct 30, 2015 -> 08:32 AM) I wonder what it would take to pry Lucroy from Milwaukee. I read the Brewers may try and shop him this offseason. Â Montas, Adams and Hawkins if they were lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxJon Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 Plawecki/Norris and Frazier are my top trade targets for CWS with Hawkins, Sanchez, Saladino, Erik Johnson, May, Nieto, Beck, and Coats all being available to deal (Montas, Fulmer, Rodon, Thompson untouchable). As much as I would love Weiters on the South Side, his price isn't right and ATL will almost surely lock him up. Flowers isn't the answer and the hopefully contending Sox have no answer on the farm. A young C like Plawecki or Norris would be the answer for CWS. I could see 2-3 (Erik Johnson, Engel, Sanchez) prospects getting these deals done. Todd Frazier is a pipe dream that CWS has virtually no shot with (I'd offer Adams, Michalczewski, Hawkins, Beck for). Danks and LaRoche both off books. My dream 2017 WS Champion CWS: C: Plawecki, AJ 1B: Abreu 2B: Johnson 3B: Frazier SS: Anderson, Ramirez (diminished role) OF: Eaton, Melky, Avi, Thompson Rotation: Sale, Montas, Quintana, Fulmer, Rodon Pen': Robertson, Duke, Jones, Webb, Putnam, Albers, Danish, Jennings Lineup: Eaton, Anderson, Melky, Abreu, Frazier, Avi, Thompson, Plawecki, Johnson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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