Whisox05 Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 QUOTE (chw42 @ Jul 23, 2016 -> 06:00 PM) Sale will never be a consistently great pitcher unless he learns how to control his emotions. It was pretty clear this year that once you got Sale out of his comfort zone, he'd get angry, overthrow, and get himself into trouble. His personality off the field reflects that too I guess. Spring traing brought more of this out of him but i noticed this a couple years ago that he has issues. I really noticed in a game when viciedo was playing and a ball was hit to him in left field and he misplayed it and sale got pissed and started overthrowing and got into a jam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted July 23, 2016 Author Share Posted July 23, 2016 I was told Sale's emotions bubbled over again. Dispute that led to him being sent home was w/ someone in managment, not teammate. https://twitter.com/spshoot/status/756988391103881216 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 QUOTE (Baron @ Jul 23, 2016 -> 06:01 PM) If he got into it with Kenny/Hahn or one of the other execs he has to go. Not maybe. He needs to leave. So you're on Kenny Williams side? The best pitcher in team history means nothing to you? LMAO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Jul 23, 2016 -> 06:05 PM) The dudes a hot head. that's been known well before this. He was probably scratched and went all redneck when he was told. It's not a big deal. I'm just saying if I'm a GM about to give up one of the biggest packages in baseball history for a guy, I don't want any last second red flags that could cause me to question the deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted July 23, 2016 Author Share Posted July 23, 2016 QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Jul 23, 2016 -> 06:07 PM) So you're on Kenny Williams side? The best pitcher in team history means nothing to you? LMAO. You know what they say when you assume things? The team cant move forward if they have someone challenging them at every turn. They've let him get away with this s*** for far too long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 What really happened was a pre game meeting with Kenny Williams and Sale. Kenny told Sale that they had a trade package lined up that they couldn't refuse but also mentioned that JR wouldn't approve the deal. Kenny then asked Sale if he considers him a dochebag - to which Sale replied, "yes - of course." Kenny then told him to be a complete jack off, to get completely drunk, and to start ranting about how much better he is than, "Moan-a-catta". Told him to be sure to also eat a lot of itilian desert before getting drunk and requested projectile vomit all over Robin. It went down exactly like this and JR is currently sitting with Kenny "reviewing" the trade offer again. Case closed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 Mookie Betts scratched tonight due to knee soreness... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggsmaggs Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 The irony is if he had a verbal confrontation with management, KW is as big a headcase as Sale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (Knackattack @ Jul 23, 2016 -> 05:55 PM) They've let him throw a few temper tantrums with no repercussions. Just because he is good doesn't mean he can say whatever he wants to upper management and get it thrown around the internet making the whole team look bad. I see it as the proper way to handle it. The first time he was probably told don't do it again or there will be a punishment. This is your one chance. He did it again and there was a punishment. He does it again the punishment escalates. Edited July 23, 2016 by ptatc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 Anyone who fails to see that Sale is a big baby has blinders over their eyes. I still like him, but the guy throws temper tantrums and it's a character flaw that might just be getting him booted out of here now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapzk Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jul 23, 2016 -> 07:07 PM) I'm just saying if I'm a GM about to give up one of the biggest packages in baseball history for a guy, I don't want any last second red flags that could cause me to question the deal. Questioning a poorly run organization as a player is not necessarily a red flag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCCWS Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 QUOTE (chw42 @ Jul 23, 2016 -> 07:05 PM) I'd totally be willing to trade him to Boston for a package centered around Moncada. Huh??? You want to trade a top 5 pitcher in baseball for a package centered around a AA 2nd baseman who some project to be a DH in the majors. Time for your parents to take your computer away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 QUOTE (maggsmaggs @ Jul 23, 2016 -> 06:09 PM) The irony is if he had a verbal confrontation with management, KW is as big a headcase as Sale. Exactly his ass should of been launched long ago, but we all know KW will survive this and still be here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisox05 Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 Since late inthe 2014 season, Sale has been in four known "clubhouse incidents," one involving the Royals' clubhouse. #WhiteSox https://twitter.com/scotgregor/status/756990220277604353 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 Seems like this story sets the Sox up for leaking a narrative that Sale forced their hand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted July 23, 2016 Author Share Posted July 23, 2016 Pretty sure Moncada is projected to move to 3rd base very soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 QUOTE (SCCWS @ Jul 23, 2016 -> 04:11 PM) Huh??? You want to trade a top 5 pitcher in baseball for a package centered around a AA 2nd baseman who some project to be a DH in the majors. Time for your parents to take your computer away. Betts and Monacada. Bring it. Please God? That would sure as hell be an OUCH to the Red Sox but I'd be stoked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisox05 Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 #WhiteSox have covered for Sale and his antics for years now. Immense talent, short temper. https://twitter.com/BrianBilek_/status/756989344838103040 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 QUOTE (kapzk @ Jul 23, 2016 -> 06:11 PM) Questioning a poorly run organization as a player is not necessarily a red flag. We don't know if that's what happened. Using the word "investigation" is a bit scary and leaves a lot of room to the imagination. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 Jeff Passan @JeffPassan 16s16 seconds ago Sources: White Sox's ask for Chris Sale has been "staggering," per one GM, but two other execs who have talked with Sox think he gets dealt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted July 23, 2016 Author Share Posted July 23, 2016 (edited) DirtySox has it....I mean I think the chances are pretty good it goes down now. Edited July 23, 2016 by Baron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 QUOTE (Jake @ Jul 23, 2016 -> 06:12 PM) Seems like this story sets the Sox up for leaking a narrative that Sale forced their hand It does look like that doesn't it. They just had to trade him because he burned too many bridges in the clubhouse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 QUOTE (Tony @ Jul 23, 2016 -> 07:14 PM) See, now the Sox are pissed, and are going to go to all their people to start letting the bad stories out about Sale. It's so White Sox Ugh this is embarrassing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daggins Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 Damn leave it to Hahn to consider the optics in this whole affair. He's like Lex Luthor evilsmart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (Jake @ Jul 23, 2016 -> 06:12 PM) Seems like this story sets the Sox up for leaking a narrative that Sale forced their hand All of which devalues Sale in the trade market. This organization has the sorriest most "for the benefit of management" centered leadership I've ever seen. Williams needed to go years ago. Edited July 23, 2016 by GreenSox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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