SoxAce Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 QUOTE (DirtySox @ Sep 8, 2017 -> 07:28 PM) A look at Ethan Hankins 14K's against Korea. In consideration as the top arm in the 2018 draft class. Get familiar. https://mobile.twitter.com/WBSC/status/906232961367851008 Kid reminds me alot of Roy Oswalt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 Recent BA article on Hankins. http://www.baseballamerica.com/draft/ethan...Y5IGrJuoAjgF.97 While prep pitcher isn't my preferred selection for the White Sox, kid throws some filth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Sep 8, 2017 -> 05:52 PM) That is some nasty movement on his fastball and slider. Kid is pretty filthy. Jesus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 QUOTE (DirtySox @ Sep 8, 2017 -> 09:13 PM) Recent BA article on Hankins. http://www.baseballamerica.com/draft/ethan...Y5IGrJuoAjgF.97 While prep pitcher isn't my preferred selection for the White Sox, kid throws some filth. Nobody ever wants to draft HS pitchers because of the risk involved but Hankins and Rocker both look ridiculous. Kopech, Giolito and Cease were all HS pitchers. 2/3 did have TJS already though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggsmaggs Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Sep 9, 2017 -> 07:17 AM) Nobody ever wants to draft HS pitchers because of the risk involved but Hankins and Rocker both look ridiculous. Kopech, Giolito and Cease were all HS pitchers. 2/3 did have TJS already though. Rockar is a big kid who is already filled out while Hankins is tall but still rather skinny. He is gonna add velocity as he fills out. He is just a wow prospect. Doubt the Sox would go with a high school arm in the top 3 of the draft, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Sep 9, 2017 -> 07:17 AM) Nobody ever wants to draft HS pitchers because of the risk involved but Hankins and Rocker both look ridiculous. Kopech, Giolito and Cease were all HS pitchers. 2/3 did have TJS already though. Last night Hawk and Stone touched on this. Hawk said he won't let his grandson throw a breaking ball until he's 18, to which Stone agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominikk85 Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 I think the no HS pitcher first overall is also a bit of a tradition thing. Hs pitchers are far away an might be higher risk but it is also that no scout wants to get fired because his first overall pick busts so they don't go against the convention. The last two years the consensus best player available according to most scosts was a hs pitcher (groome and green) and both fell some albeit groome a lot more. Also many teams now like college picks because they get to the show earlier, if you want a hs pick it has to be a fast athletic guy who can play center or shortstop. Maybe that even is a market inefficiency but at a top3 pick everyone wants to play it safe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 WOW! I love how this kid works. Super fast. He is ready to throw before the batter is even in the box. I also like how he changes how long he pauses in his step back/sideways. Sometimes it's super fast where it barely seems like his foot is hitting the ground while other times he pauses for a second or two. After that video of him.. I am hooked haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 QUOTE (GermanSock @ Sep 10, 2017 -> 07:43 AM) if you want a hs pick it has to be a fast athletic guy who can play center or shortstop. and for good reason; also need some power potential. I'm more of a volume guy on pitching. Draft a lot of it, but because of the high wash-out rate, I wouldn't use the top few picks on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 QUOTE (cjgalloway @ Sep 10, 2017 -> 12:38 PM) WOW! I love how this kid works. Super fast. He is ready to throw before the batter is even in the box. I also like how he changes how long he pauses in his step back/sideways. Sometimes it's super fast where it barely seems like his foot is hitting the ground while other times he pauses for a second or two. After that video of him.. I am hooked haha Yeah, he could teach Strohman a thing or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 Oh... to have Tatis Jr. still. Ok.... divergence over. Carry on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggsmaggs Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 (edited) Jim Callis was on Garfien's podcast and basically said the top three in the 2018 Draft after the summer were: Turang, Singer and Hankins. Callis did not talk a lot about the players individually, but did not seem to think there was another college pitcher on/near Singer's level. Mentioned Shane McClanahan from South Florida and Casey Mize from Auburn, but noted that McClanahan had already had TJ and Mize has had to be shut down due to fatigue multiple times already. Edited September 13, 2017 by maggsmaggs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 QUOTE (maggsmaggs @ Sep 13, 2017 -> 05:06 AM) Jim Callis was on Garfien's podcast and basically said the top three in the 2018 Draft after the summer were: Turang, Singer and Hankins. Callis did not talk a lot about the players individually, but did not seem to think there was another college pitcher on/near Singer's level. Mentioned Shane McClanahan from South Florida and Casey Mize from Auburn, but noted that McClanahan had already had TJ and Mize has had to be shut down due to fatigue multiple times already. If Sox are picking top 3, it's probably a HS bat IMO. I wouldn't be opposed to taking Hankins though. That dude is a stud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 (edited) QUOTE (hi8is @ Sep 10, 2017 -> 05:56 PM) Oh... to have Tatis Jr. still. Ok.... divergence over. Carry on. We seriously need to get past this. They weren't rebuilding yet when they made that trade. It happened. It's over. Not just referring to you hi8is but just the posts about Tatis in general. Edited September 13, 2017 by soxfan2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Sep 13, 2017 -> 09:34 AM) We seriously need to get past this. They weren't rebuilding yet when they made that trade. It happened. It's over. Not just referring to you hi8is but just the posts about Tatis in general. WHERE IS OUR LIRIANO?!?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 13, 2017 -> 09:37 AM) WHERE IS OUR LIRIANO?!?!? We have Rymer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 So Callis said this is the best draft since 2011. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turnin' two Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 (edited) QUOTE (bmags @ Sep 13, 2017 -> 10:21 AM) So Callis said this is the best draft since 2011. Danny Hultzen and Trevor Bauer went 2 and 3 in that draft. With Dylan Bundy and Bubba Starling 4 and 5. A lot of better talent taken down in the draft... Hopefully the Sox don't look take a Trevor Bauer over a Lindor or Jose Fernandez. But, man was there a lot of impact talent in that draft. Edited September 13, 2017 by turnin' two Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Sep 13, 2017 -> 07:34 AM) We seriously need to get past this. They weren't rebuilding yet when they made that trade. It happened. It's over. Not just referring to you hi8is but just the posts about Tatis in general. It's over but it still hurts and will likely just keep stinging more. That all gets erased when we're a powerhouse. Until then, it's the line thorn remaining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 QUOTE (turnin' two @ Sep 13, 2017 -> 12:26 PM) Danny Hultzen and Trevor Bauer went 2 and 3 in that draft. With Dylan Bundy and Bubba Starling 4 and 5. A lot of better talent taken down in the draft... Hopefully the Sox don't look take a Trevor Bauer over a Lindor or Jose Fernandez. But, man was there a lot of impact talent in that draft. Right now it's lining up to look like pitchers slotting into 2-3 but in terms of profile I'd really like this to be a prep SS year for the sox. Don't get many shots at those guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 QUOTE (hi8is @ Sep 13, 2017 -> 01:21 PM) It's over but it still hurts and will likely just keep stinging more. That all gets erased when we're a powerhouse. Until then, it's the line thorn remaining. Be happy that the were at least able to identify a talent like that in the prelim stage. It does sting, but the Sox still have a top 2 system in the game. And frankly, they'd have probably screwed up his development, LOL. He'd have hit .240 in Great Falls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Sep 13, 2017 -> 01:24 PM) Be happy that the were at least able to identify a talent like that in the prelim stage. That's a good perspective, indeed. This new gestational rapport we have slowly building is much more enjoyable than in months past. Kudos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 I hope Kelenic rakes so we can take him #3, and Beer sucks, so we can grab him the 2nd RD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 QUOTE (ChiliIrishHammock24 @ Sep 13, 2017 -> 11:50 PM) I hope Kelenic rakes so we can take him #3, and Beer sucks, so we can grab him the 2nd RD. We'd all s*** massive bricks. MASSIVE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Beer is apparently sucking with wood bats again. I mean whose to say he isn't selected where that Rooker was this year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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