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I'm rooting for Wacha and Beltran, but I'm not rooting for the Cardinals or Red Sox- if that makes sense. Been a tough postseason to find teams to like.

 

Also, when this is over, the White Sox will be 1 of 6 teams to win a World Series in the last 10 years. With more and more distance from 2005, it just shows how hard it is to win a World Series. And if you win a World Series in one of the two years you make the postseason--we're really, really fortunate to have that happen. And the Giants are even luckier.

 

Red Sox in 7.

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QUOTE (chw42 @ Oct 20, 2013 -> 01:04 PM)
It's pretty hilarious that everyone hates Cards fans now.

 

I want to see every Cards fan down here miserable.

 

The other day one of them told me Carlos Martinez for Sale is a fair trade and Wacha for Sale straight up is incredibly lopsided in the Sox favor.

 

f*** them and they're players that they overrate.

 

Go Peavy.

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It's like hating the Braves and Rays, for example.

 

Hard to hate teams that draft and develop young players so well. Admire, is more like it.

 

Is there an "overhype" factor now where they're getting too much love and affection and attention, probably.

 

Almost everything has gone right for them (except for Furcal being injured). Pujuls not coming back. Hiring a manager with no experience. Breakout performances in different seasons/post-seasons from Freese, Carpenter, Jay, Craig, Adams. Yadier Molina morphing into the best catcher in baseball. Beltran, the best post-season player in baseball history. Holliday providing solid veteran leadership. Probably the only hole in the line-up being SS, and still getting good defensive play there.

 

Then Kelly, Wacha, Shelby Miller, Lance Lynn, Carlos Martinez, Jaime Garcia, Rosenthal, Gast, Siegrist, Motte, Lyons, etc.

 

It's am embarrassment of riches, almost.

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QUOTE (Jake @ Oct 20, 2013 -> 03:55 PM)
It's the fans, not the team. It's a well run team (that can spend with the big boys, by the way)

 

 

The Cardinals fans were suffering for quite a while though, until the arrival of Pujols/LaRussa/McGwire. The death of Daryll Kyle as well.

 

You had the 1987 and 1985 World Series heartbreaks....the call at 1B (Denkinger) and then the Tudor/Joaquin Andujar meltdowns in 1987. If that series was played 4 games in StL, everyone knows the Cardinals would have won (just like Twins' fans had the pleasure of the same advantage four years later against the Braves).

 

And some very tough Mets' teams to deal with (Strawberry/Gooden) in the 80's as well.

 

Until 2006, it was a LONG time since they'd broken through and had much playoff success. They were basically like the less successful version of the Braves, or maybe the Indians.

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QUOTE (Jake @ Oct 20, 2013 -> 04:55 PM)
It's the fans, not the team. It's a well run team (that can spend with the big boys, by the way)

 

Exactly. IMO they are the best run organization in baseball. When they do spend money, they do it well, and they obviously do a great job developing talent. The fanbase's combination of arrogance and ignorance is what kills me.

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