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soxfan2014
post Oct 27, 2017 -> 01:19 PM
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QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Oct 27, 2017 -> 02:17 PM) *
That is a very interesting trade rumor. As a Sox fan, I wouldn't want to see it happen so the cubs remain stuck like pigs with Heyward's contract. As a baseball fan, it's makes sense for both teams.


Yeah I'd rather they have to trade one of their younger guys due to the glut than unclog it by dealing Heyward.
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post Oct 27, 2017 -> 01:19 PM
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QUOTE (TheTruth05 @ Oct 27, 2017 -> 02:00 PM) *
Don't understand how SF benefits from that. That would be the ultimate bail out for the Cubs.


I wonder if it makes cash room for Stanton
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post Oct 27, 2017 -> 01:22 PM
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Heyward is owed: $140 million over next 6 years- $28.2 (2018), $22.5 (2019), $23.5 (2020), $23.5 (2021), $24.5 (2022), $24.5 (2023).

Samardzija: $19.8 in 2018, 2019, 2020 for a total of $59.4 million
Melancon:$13 million (2018), $17 million (2019), $17 million (2020)

Do the Giants need the $$ to take on Giancarlo Stanton's deal? Heyman has them as the frontrunners.

This deal would save Giants: $5 million in 2018, $14 million in 2019, and $13 million in 2020.

Jesse Rogers apparently brought up the same trade discussions on ESPN1000 today as well.
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post Oct 27, 2017 -> 01:24 PM
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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 27, 2017 -> 02:19 PM) *
I wonder if it makes cash room for Stanton


If they acquire both Heyward and Stanton, depending on the money going their way, they would definitely need to deal both Span and Pence.
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post Oct 27, 2017 -> 01:29 PM
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I don't see how this deal makes sense for the Giants.

All three contracts are bad but the Giants contracts you could eat some salary and move both guys for $0.50 on the dollar. The Heyward deal is an albatross.

The Giants in total also take on about $30M in extra salary.

This assumes nobody opts out and the cubs don't send money the Giants way.

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post Oct 27, 2017 -> 01:36 PM
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Since the Giants are looking to free up some money, I'd do a James Shields for Hunter Pence/Heliot Ramos swap. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Oct 27, 2017 -> 01:47 PM
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QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Oct 27, 2017 -> 02:22 PM) *
Heyward is owed: $140 million over next 6 years- $28.2 (2018), $22.5 (2019), $23.5 (2020), $23.5 (2021), $24.5 (2022), $24.5 (2023).

Samardzija: $19.8 in 2018, 2019, 2020 for a total of $59.4 million
Melancon:$13 million (2018), $17 million (2019), $17 million (2020)

Do the Giants need the $$ to take on Giancarlo Stanton's deal? Heyman has them as the frontrunners.

This deal would save Giants: $5 million in 2018, $14 million in 2019, and $13 million in 2020.

Jesse Rogers apparently brought up the same trade discussions on ESPN1000 today as well.


I hadn't seen that. Makes more sense now as they'll be trying to get every penny for Stanton. I trust WSD so I'm going to assume there have been advanced talks on this. This would help the cubs pretty nicely.
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post Oct 27, 2017 -> 03:33 PM
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Stop me if you have heard this one before... Cubs benefit from a blown call.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/dc-spor...m=.16653de4fbaa
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post Oct 28, 2017 -> 07:53 AM
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Cubs have a worse time with the truth than they do with their bullpen

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/rosen...1027-story.html
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post Oct 28, 2017 -> 08:26 PM
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QUOTE (whitesoxjr27 @ Oct 28, 2017 -> 06:53 AM) *
Cubs have a worse time with the truth than they do with their bullpen

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/rosen...1027-story.html

Bosio's firing was interesting, as we saw Maddon relying on him all postseason in regards to when to go get a guy.

And yet, the hiring of Jim Hickey clearly shows the Cubs gave Maddon wide latitude in regards to who was to replace Bosio. Also makes you wonder how much Arrieta's imminent departure, and whatever hand Bosio may have had in turning him around played into the decision.

Rosenbloom seizing on the transparency issue though is pretty laughable.
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