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People are obssessed with extensions. I'd rather have the next 1.5 years of data on him and pay market price (which we can certainly afford) than lock into him for some 4 for $30 number which isn't prohibitive but would also still be annoying if he turns back to a .650 ops catcher.

I'm going to remain optimistic on Madrigal. He's got the makeup to get to the most of his abilities. That and I will not become one of those overly negative shit on everything SoxTalk posters. That being said, his hitting has been very disappointing so far.

He's evolving

Nope, Eaton being a better player for the 2016 White Sox means jack shit and I’m glad Frazier shoved his ass into a locker for being a loud-mouth, stupid douche.

Nova gave up 3 runs in 7 innings, that is not bad

Eloy? Dude, c’mon.

Just imagine if he is a true #2. What a jolt to the system, especially if Kopech and Cease turn into what we think.

98 pitches? Send him out there for the CG shutout. Short leash.

Hahaha, that catch by Eloy is the perfect topper for tonight.

Giolito is a guy I would loooooove to see as a color guy after his hall of fame career is over

@Goober is the man. Bite your tongue

This seems like an odd time to go off against this year's version of the Sox, after possibly their most cromulent performance of the year last night and a good looking Giolito on the mound tonight

I will promise to not worry about him for the entire time that people will promise to stop saying that he should be rushed to the big leagues or be our starting 2b sometime in 2020. I think this is a fair trade.

Giolito 9 inning complete game. Let's get it.

He better start hitting some HR's then in a hurry because he's not going to get those AB's needed to vest that option.

You love the word cromulent

I think we need to consider that maybe he's so much more productive because he hasn't been an everyday catcher.

I just wish he was playing every day. Playing Castillo every other day has been for the birds.

Yeah man, you should chill out a bit.

Maybe the best 2 game stretch of the year for pure enjoyment.

Finish it off, Lucas.

I would not send him out there. 2-13 w/RISP, 10 left. Get cute, this is the kind of game that would really sting.

Lucas Giolito is numero uno hombres

Remember all the way back to 2018 when Lucas couldn't get any swings and misses? I like this version better.

Still worthless! Such a waste of money.

Got two weeks to go on absolute tear, let’s do it

That's unreasonable due to when he got injured.

Does that HR mean he is going to hit another one before the game is over ?

Glad I decided to ignore that chump!

HOLY SHIT ELOY

Jimmy Lambo excites me

Update: Engel is still bad.

Yes you can see that in his batted ball data. A 268 BABIP which you might think is unlucky until you see his pull percentage. Dude does not turn on the ball. When he does hit it, it's usually opposite field into the ground or up the middle on the ground. Seems like he's going to need to completely retool his approach and swing. I was a fan of the pick but right now it looks like another massive Sox scouting fail.

He's been unlucky but even when he had a BABIP near 300 last year he still only managed a 97 wRC+. It wasn't too hopeful to think he'd work out as a 1.5 WAR DH in a rebuild year (after he failed to attract Machado, go figure...) but that hope is gone now. Just cut him and let Palka DH.

Thought for sure there would be a winners thread but alas here I am creating it very late after such a fun and historic game. First of all the Sox beat the Astros 9-4. How they did it is the fun and history. Most importantly, Rookie Eloy Jimenez hit 2 solo jacks and Yoan Moncada went 2/5 with an RBI. He also stole a base. These are the main 2 guys you want doing good things. Moncada also started the... Triple play . Moncada was positioned perfectly to field a Jake Marisnick shot down the third base line. Moncada knew he was a pull hitter so got closer to the base before the pitch. He got rid of the ball quickly to Yolmer Sanchez who made a nice play on the low throw and made a nice turn to nip Marisnick at 1st base. This was in the 3rd inning after the Sox had turned a double play in each of the 1st 2 innings. The Sox not only turned the 5 4 3 triple play but also 4 double plays. Probably most surprising of all with 2 outs and the bases loaded Charlie Tilson hit his 1st ML HR. He has been a revelation as a steadying influence in both the lineup and defensively since his recall from AAA Charlotte 16 games ago. Tilson is mostly known to be a speedy singles hitter so the grand slam came as quite the shock to everyone. The triple play was the White Sox first since July 8, 2016, when they turned one during an 11-8 loss to the Braves in Chicago. They also turned one against the Astros that year, on May 18. The White Sox are now only the fourth team in the last 40 years to have hit a grand slam and turned a triple play in the same game. The last to do it was the Tigers in 2017. The common thread between The White Sox and the 2017 Tigers ? James McCann., who has also been a revelation both behind the dish and in the batters box. I haven't seen anything about it ,but I'd venture a guess that a triple play, a grand slam by a guy for his 1st ML HR, 4 double plays and 2 HR's by a rookie more than likely make the Sox the first team to accomplish this in the history of baseball. If anyone has seen anything in the twitterverse about it. please post it.

Trust your eyes. He's not that anymore.

He did it!

He does seem good with the fans. That being said, it’s pretty clear he’s a total clown and a complete asshole in the locker room.

Hopefully two fifths of our second half rotation!!

I am very pro Abrams, but it is really hard to read such confident projections on his bat and not get excited. I'm actually a bit surprised they said Bryant and Vaughn's power was about equal as I'd have guessed they'd score Bryants higher.

If the Sox RELEASED Castillo, he would have multiple MLB offers to chose from.

Highly doubt it. Seth Beer is a more realistic trade target from Houston, IMO.

Right, and to the point where him being a backup doesn't hurt us if someone else grabs the starting role (Collins) or they sign someone (Grandal).

There's probably no hurry, but I would be willing to bet that there have been internal discussions already. As it's been mentioned before, he will probably regress offensively, but his defense and baseball IQ make him a huge asset. I'd be more than happy with McCann being around for a few more years.

Everyone has someone they work with they don’t get along with. Frazier was mostly bad with the Sox,and is fortunate he’s still playing anywhere. Eaton was and is a far better player. So Frazier, do your talking on the field and then pop off.

Is it just me, or does it seem like Moncada throws into the path of the runner quite a bit? Perhaps it is just inexperience, but I feel like I've seen the runner dodging Abreu a bunch this season.

What career? He's in his 2nd full season. Jesus, dude. We've hit this weird point in sports where people get so wrapped up in their arguments that they want players that are associated with management to fail. There's not a doubt in my mind that some of you guys want him to bust because he's a Hahn/Kenny player, even though he plays for your favorite team. I see it in other sports too. The internet has created some weird phenomenons.

Can’t believe a team lead by three lunatics and a 12 year old collapsed

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